The good U.S. people are living inside some "Marketing bubble"
Since very young brainwashed that America is full of Heroes, and many of them blond.
Now U.S. is really pigmented, all the world is inside the "News Marketing bubble"
And many citizens can see the true that is hidden under words alike "terrorism".
I was thinking.... Tokyo bay....long time ago.....hummmmm, many sheeps..... many soldiers, no one tried to enter Japan to finish the war, North American people was attacked in Pearl Harbor, a fair counter attack was near to start, to finish the war.....but no one put a single feet in Japan, as japanese was ready to figth till the death.... sending two nuclear bombs, one in Hiroshima and other in Nagazaki, was not a terrorism?...made in the old "Marketing ".... to defend our troops life against the dirty enemie..... a "clean" nuclear bomb transformed in dust thousands of Japanese Citizens in a matter of seconds..... For Democracy?... to be Fair?..... was that decent?.
Related half the world, which one is the terrorist can be a big doubt between U.S. President and "Sin Baden"..... Who attacked Iraq for Oil, not democracy, not to find the Big terrorist..... but some in America believe those "stories"...this is Hollywood mind....too much heroic to make a fair criticism.
All the world is really looking and analysing the U.S. actions without passionate unfair feelings....Afeganistan now is capturing oil from Russia, cheap oil to Exxon.....to reconstruct Iraq, U.S. Enginners and american companies will go there to reconstruct what the bombs had destructed.... Iraq will pay the price of the fireworks done there....maybe because bombs are becaming old..... time to use them, sending to the first one that appear with some Mouslim dress, long hairs...or Arabic face.
Searching "Sin Baden"....he is in Manhattan, the only place in the world no one will try to find him.... as an American Citizen he may be....the other one...the Arabian is paid to make the show...smilling as one idiot all the time....the one that represent the terrible terrorist has all the characteristics of a damaged brain man.
Take a look at the pictures of "Sin Baden" visit to London.... old times, the Beatles and Rollings Stones are making our minds those times...see the expression, the nose (cirurgic modified?), take a look the one is not as tall as the representative tapes you are seeing....have no connection..... they are two, one is the real man, the other is some artist..the real man may live in Manhattan, very near the towers place.
My God..... John Fitzgerald Kennedy said not to war..... unfortunattelly he died.... strange that. Nothing reasonable was published about, only hollywood stories...poor Lee Oswald.
American Citizens are good in their nature, but completely brainwashed and dominated by the system.... outside U.S. , and some people inside too, can see the theater.
Well, we must sit and be looking the next previsible things that will happen, and i am sorry very much, as your ancestrals may be not satisfied the way the things are going.
Think in Israel, remember the 7 days war around 1965, during more than 40 years thanks are figthing against stones.
Napalm in Vietnam.... do you remember..... figth for democracy?
The Red turns yellow for many of American people, ad the evil turns Heroic Democratic Defense of Civilian Freedom based on the biggest moral values.
I feel sorry, as America unstable will create a whole unstable world... and now, had not the Red Barrier that is only past.... alone as the biggest and strongest, the long arm will go more and more distant till the end.
I will close my mouth, as i can write many books about that subject, and CIA ,has offices here in my country, and i have childrens to take care.
But the world is not blind, we are seeing clearly what is really happening, no Marketing is reaching us...bombs are bombs, not gifts or favors.
Hello Till, my deep respects. Du Bist ein man...you are a man
regards,
Carlos
Since very young brainwashed that America is full of Heroes, and many of them blond.
Now U.S. is really pigmented, all the world is inside the "News Marketing bubble"
And many citizens can see the true that is hidden under words alike "terrorism".
I was thinking.... Tokyo bay....long time ago.....hummmmm, many sheeps..... many soldiers, no one tried to enter Japan to finish the war, North American people was attacked in Pearl Harbor, a fair counter attack was near to start, to finish the war.....but no one put a single feet in Japan, as japanese was ready to figth till the death.... sending two nuclear bombs, one in Hiroshima and other in Nagazaki, was not a terrorism?...made in the old "Marketing ".... to defend our troops life against the dirty enemie..... a "clean" nuclear bomb transformed in dust thousands of Japanese Citizens in a matter of seconds..... For Democracy?... to be Fair?..... was that decent?.
Related half the world, which one is the terrorist can be a big doubt between U.S. President and "Sin Baden"..... Who attacked Iraq for Oil, not democracy, not to find the Big terrorist..... but some in America believe those "stories"...this is Hollywood mind....too much heroic to make a fair criticism.
All the world is really looking and analysing the U.S. actions without passionate unfair feelings....Afeganistan now is capturing oil from Russia, cheap oil to Exxon.....to reconstruct Iraq, U.S. Enginners and american companies will go there to reconstruct what the bombs had destructed.... Iraq will pay the price of the fireworks done there....maybe because bombs are becaming old..... time to use them, sending to the first one that appear with some Mouslim dress, long hairs...or Arabic face.
Searching "Sin Baden"....he is in Manhattan, the only place in the world no one will try to find him.... as an American Citizen he may be....the other one...the Arabian is paid to make the show...smilling as one idiot all the time....the one that represent the terrible terrorist has all the characteristics of a damaged brain man.
Take a look at the pictures of "Sin Baden" visit to London.... old times, the Beatles and Rollings Stones are making our minds those times...see the expression, the nose (cirurgic modified?), take a look the one is not as tall as the representative tapes you are seeing....have no connection..... they are two, one is the real man, the other is some artist..the real man may live in Manhattan, very near the towers place.
My God..... John Fitzgerald Kennedy said not to war..... unfortunattelly he died.... strange that. Nothing reasonable was published about, only hollywood stories...poor Lee Oswald.
American Citizens are good in their nature, but completely brainwashed and dominated by the system.... outside U.S. , and some people inside too, can see the theater.
Well, we must sit and be looking the next previsible things that will happen, and i am sorry very much, as your ancestrals may be not satisfied the way the things are going.
Think in Israel, remember the 7 days war around 1965, during more than 40 years thanks are figthing against stones.
Napalm in Vietnam.... do you remember..... figth for democracy?
The Red turns yellow for many of American people, ad the evil turns Heroic Democratic Defense of Civilian Freedom based on the biggest moral values.
I feel sorry, as America unstable will create a whole unstable world... and now, had not the Red Barrier that is only past.... alone as the biggest and strongest, the long arm will go more and more distant till the end.
I will close my mouth, as i can write many books about that subject, and CIA ,has offices here in my country, and i have childrens to take care.
But the world is not blind, we are seeing clearly what is really happening, no Marketing is reaching us...bombs are bombs, not gifts or favors.
Hello Till, my deep respects. Du Bist ein man...you are a man
regards,
Carlos
stop usen just fox news, where i live its an extra part of cable service unlike abc nbc and cbs and those are what most people end up watchin. like someone aready said they are anti bush through and through (the whole dan rather incident involving the forged document tells a good tail about there views). no i am not gona say fox is any better, they take the opposite side and push bush to the extreme.
Re: My, my, my........
The Russians are not communist any more, its Rich China and poor Cuba that are communist
And why would you call the UN? you would call NATO wouldn't you?
Hmmm, thats like calling your local politician about a fire
The UN is a civillian body, and GWB poster boy
NATO's got tanks and stuff
Jocko Homo said:
The Russians are not communist any more, its Rich China and poor Cuba that are communist
And why would you call the UN? you would call NATO wouldn't you?
Hmmm, thats like calling your local politician about a fire
The UN is a civillian body, and GWB poster boy
NATO's got tanks and stuff
The effect of merging the eastern and western part of germany again after cold war brought some insights. I life at the western side, very close to the ex - border. No we have frequently contacts with people from the eastern side, some became friends. It turned out, the forces at Nationale Volksarmee, had at least the same fear we would overrun them...
Schröder & co: they look really bad in the last few elections, as do the other big party. One point why is, they turn towards neocon politics and away from social politics. Another is, they are much stronger supporters of the US, and more warmongers (keen on sending forces to afganistan) - than the people accept. A result is the small parties getting stronger. From far right to far left.
I see no point in the fear russia would overrun us. But there are some people from over here who had problems visiting the USA, transit on a US airport, beeing student there... A friend of mine who works for an oil companie was often in venezuela. When he had to visit the US, he got a fresh passport. Guess why. Non - Us transit flights are a growing market last 2 years or so.
The job from Siemens: In case they would give me a job, i would prefer one in Buenos Aires, Mexico, Brasil. You need to accept it, the most european people fear the US much more than they fear russia or any ridicolous Usama - sock puppets.
Schröder & co: they look really bad in the last few elections, as do the other big party. One point why is, they turn towards neocon politics and away from social politics. Another is, they are much stronger supporters of the US, and more warmongers (keen on sending forces to afganistan) - than the people accept. A result is the small parties getting stronger. From far right to far left.
I see no point in the fear russia would overrun us. But there are some people from over here who had problems visiting the USA, transit on a US airport, beeing student there... A friend of mine who works for an oil companie was often in venezuela. When he had to visit the US, he got a fresh passport. Guess why. Non - Us transit flights are a growing market last 2 years or so.
The job from Siemens: In case they would give me a job, i would prefer one in Buenos Aires, Mexico, Brasil. You need to accept it, the most european people fear the US much more than they fear russia or any ridicolous Usama - sock puppets.
The last time I was in Germany (maybe three months ago), the newspapers were reporting a poll showing that a majority of Germans were unhappy with the reunification and wish it could somehow be reversed. Not surprisingly, the West Germans were the most unhappy about it, I suppose because of the pegging of the two marks at 1:1 and because of the amount of tax money that had to flow from the richer part (west) to the poorer part (east). What are the attitudes where you are, near the border?
I think nobody would really want to reverse it - and split up the country again. There is a strong criticism on how the unification was managed by politicians. The major stress lies on the politics and on the managemend what failed and burned too much money, not on the unification itself. Lets, say, the expectations and promises were far different from what we reached. The people (east and west) feel they were fooled by the oligarchie politicians mafia.
I think there are people who want to reverse it.SY said:
You can find this kind of people in any country. People who want their state/county/region independent. Usually they are very few, but not always(see yu). In de they are not many, but they exist for sure.
As about the west paying for the east, I am paying each month for the east and so are all west workers. We are paying the so called "solidarity tax", in my case it's just over 100eur each month. Of course many people don't love this tax, nor do I(that's 1200+ eur a year), but I think it is necessary, and it should be kept. One day it won't be required anymore, but for now it still is.
As about the hard feelings, e vs. w and w vs e, you find radicals on both sides, so I'd call it a tie.
Funny thing is the way the differences between e and w are presented. They say, the e wages are 20% less than in the w, but at the same time they are saying the live costs are about 1/5 less than in w. I should add that not only the life costs are lower in e.
Re: The good U.S. people are living inside some "Marketing bubble"
Perhaps a little more time spent on the history books would be useful to some of the correspondents -- John Kennedy was the first to begin to massively support the defense of South Viet Nam -- he was also "Bush-Like" in his confrontation of the Soviet Union by blockading the shipment of nuclear missiles to Cuba, bringing East and West to the brink of Armageddon. John Kennedy also reduced marginal tax rates and got the economy out of it's Eisenhower "funk"...and John Kennedy also knew more about Marilyn Monroe than 99.999% of all Americans.
Kennedy was almost court-martialed for reckless behavior which resulted in the sinking of his PT boat, but his valor in rescuing the crew was over-arching in the Navy's assesment.
destroyer X said:
Perhaps a little more time spent on the history books would be useful to some of the correspondents -- John Kennedy was the first to begin to massively support the defense of South Viet Nam -- he was also "Bush-Like" in his confrontation of the Soviet Union by blockading the shipment of nuclear missiles to Cuba, bringing East and West to the brink of Armageddon. John Kennedy also reduced marginal tax rates and got the economy out of it's Eisenhower "funk"...and John Kennedy also knew more about Marilyn Monroe than 99.999% of all Americans.
Kennedy was almost court-martialed for reckless behavior which resulted in the sinking of his PT boat, but his valor in rescuing the crew was over-arching in the Navy's assesment.
Re: Re: The good U.S. people are living inside some "Marketing bubble"
Not to mention that JFK's Father made the Kennedy fortune as a bootlegger, "Rum Running" during Our Prohibition, or that His political victory was most likely due largely to his fathers Mob connections.
I offer this option to all of the USA neigh sayers. Our Buddy, the "King" of France, has called for the EU to put together a military and economic force to counter "The USA threat".
GO FOR IT!
Carlos, I am sorry to see that you are posting the things that you have been here. I respect Your insight and work done for Us here on the forums. Even though Your English isn't always easy to understand(I know, it's hard for Us too!) I always enjoyed your posts.
To the other posters: I'm sorry that you are disappointed in Our overwhelming support for Our president. I also know that the perception is that "It must be those dumb hicks & fanatical Christians that did it!"
SORRY!
None of the people I know that voted for Bush were :
(A.) Religious, fanatical or otherwise.
(B.) Uneducated, in fact most of us hold multiple degrees.
(C.) Hicks, In fact I'm mostly French Canadian/Irish.
As with most people who know nothing of which They speak, Your stereotypical portrayal of "The average American", is not only insulting, but just plain wrong.
But I'm sure you all will see this as the rantings of "Just one more dumb American", and as such, dismiss it.
So be it.
Tall Shadow
jackinnj said:
Not to mention that JFK's Father made the Kennedy fortune as a bootlegger, "Rum Running" during Our Prohibition, or that His political victory was most likely due largely to his fathers Mob connections.
I offer this option to all of the USA neigh sayers. Our Buddy, the "King" of France, has called for the EU to put together a military and economic force to counter "The USA threat".
GO FOR IT!
Carlos, I am sorry to see that you are posting the things that you have been here. I respect Your insight and work done for Us here on the forums. Even though Your English isn't always easy to understand(I know, it's hard for Us too!) I always enjoyed your posts.
To the other posters: I'm sorry that you are disappointed in Our overwhelming support for Our president. I also know that the perception is that "It must be those dumb hicks & fanatical Christians that did it!"
SORRY!
None of the people I know that voted for Bush were :
(A.) Religious, fanatical or otherwise.
(B.) Uneducated, in fact most of us hold multiple degrees.
(C.) Hicks, In fact I'm mostly French Canadian/Irish.
As with most people who know nothing of which They speak, Your stereotypical portrayal of "The average American", is not only insulting, but just plain wrong.
But I'm sure you all will see this as the rantings of "Just one more dumb American", and as such, dismiss it.
So be it.
Tall Shadow
Re: Re: Re: The good U.S. people are living inside some "Marketing bubble"
Two more little facts, maybe three:
1) Joe Kennedy was a not only a rum-runner, he was also a stock manipulator !. FDR put Joe Kennedy in charge of the newly formed Securities and Exchange Commission.
2) Joe Kennedy was a disaster as Ambassador to the U.K. prior to and during the beginning of WW-II, he wanted the Brits to sue for terms...
3) Unlike most of us on the board who work for a living, the Kennedy's used offshore trusts to shield their wealth from income and estate taxation. PS -- most of George Soros' dough is outside of the U.S. -- and it is only taxed when it is repatriated.
Yes, there is a culture war going on in the U.S.
Tall Shadow said:
Two more little facts, maybe three:
1) Joe Kennedy was a not only a rum-runner, he was also a stock manipulator !. FDR put Joe Kennedy in charge of the newly formed Securities and Exchange Commission.
2) Joe Kennedy was a disaster as Ambassador to the U.K. prior to and during the beginning of WW-II, he wanted the Brits to sue for terms...
3) Unlike most of us on the board who work for a living, the Kennedy's used offshore trusts to shield their wealth from income and estate taxation. PS -- most of George Soros' dough is outside of the U.S. -- and it is only taxed when it is repatriated.
Yes, there is a culture war going on in the U.S.
Re: Re: Re: The good U.S. people are living inside some "Marketing bubble"
Suppose you were reading the post of someone that was, say, matching transistors If they claimed that a 51% yield was an "overwhelming" number of matches, wouldn't you dismiss them as somewhat of a crackpot, or at the very least, just plain clueless?
Why should your post be any different?
Tall Shadow said:
Suppose you were reading the post of someone that was, say, matching transistors If they claimed that a 51% yield was an "overwhelming" number of matches, wouldn't you dismiss them as somewhat of a crackpot, or at the very least, just plain clueless?
Why should your post be any different?
51% is a level which Clinton never attained.
I would call losing 4 "net" seats in the Senate an unmitigated disaster for the Dems, particularly when there will be 3 appointments to the Supreme Court.
I would call losing 4 "net" seats in the Senate an unmitigated disaster for the Dems, particularly when there will be 3 appointments to the Supreme Court.
No, i am not the owner of the reason, i was not present at those things that happened
I was not hidden behind some stone, when Kennedy was murdered.
I cannot guarantee that CIA has the responsability, as i have not pictures, documents, movies and testimony
Also, i cannot enter Mr. Bush Head to know what he is thinking.
My informs came from Press, from Television, from Radio and from foreigners people talking about that subject.
The only one that really can say, with 100 percent guarantee of the facts is GOD, and, as Mr. Bush win that election, so, more war, more death,....i imagine that you cannot ask God, first that you have not his telefone number, and second because i suppose he is at vacations....because, if he was working, and taking care of us, he never let Mr. Bush win that election.
All those things that is happening, is opposite related off good sense, related to love one each other, related to perpetuation of the manking...unfair....crazy, absurd.
I am sorry, to disturb you, but this was near to explode in my brain, as i can say something to you all here...i am doing before explode my insides in disgusting revolution.
regards,
Carlos
I was not hidden behind some stone, when Kennedy was murdered.
I cannot guarantee that CIA has the responsability, as i have not pictures, documents, movies and testimony
Also, i cannot enter Mr. Bush Head to know what he is thinking.
My informs came from Press, from Television, from Radio and from foreigners people talking about that subject.
The only one that really can say, with 100 percent guarantee of the facts is GOD, and, as Mr. Bush win that election, so, more war, more death,....i imagine that you cannot ask God, first that you have not his telefone number, and second because i suppose he is at vacations....because, if he was working, and taking care of us, he never let Mr. Bush win that election.
All those things that is happening, is opposite related off good sense, related to love one each other, related to perpetuation of the manking...unfair....crazy, absurd.
I am sorry, to disturb you, but this was near to explode in my brain, as i can say something to you all here...i am doing before explode my insides in disgusting revolution.
regards,
Carlos
Useless discussion whe're having....Just like America can't change the middle east. We can't change America. All change HAS to come from inside!!!!
The most powerful country in the world will fail at building a democracy....only when Americans realize they took a wrong turn, will they turn back. And most Americans know I believe in their heart of hearts...that the Iraq war is and was a mistake. Or if they don't know now..the'll know it soon enough.
I don't want to give the impression that Europeans make better decisions...but I found the "Franklin Roosevelt invading México in response to Pearl Harbor" pretty apt. What an incredible blunder...
History won't look well on that mistake...
I have to confess...I love America and Americans...maybe because they are similar in a lot of ways to the Afrikaners...a people I grew up with and learned to love...although never agreed with politically...never.
The most powerful country in the world will fail at building a democracy....only when Americans realize they took a wrong turn, will they turn back. And most Americans know I believe in their heart of hearts...that the Iraq war is and was a mistake. Or if they don't know now..the'll know it soon enough.
I don't want to give the impression that Europeans make better decisions...but I found the "Franklin Roosevelt invading México in response to Pearl Harbor" pretty apt. What an incredible blunder...
History won't look well on that mistake...
I have to confess...I love America and Americans...maybe because they are similar in a lot of ways to the Afrikaners...a people I grew up with and learned to love...although never agreed with politically...never.
Carlos,
I intend not to get into a drawn out discussion. However, I must say that the media is emphasizing certain aspects of the recent election, and not others. There has been MUCH evidence of tampering on the part of the democrats...Much more so than by republicans. Unfortunately, thanks to media bias a great majority will not hear of that. (I know, I keep coming back to media bias..but it is absolutely the issue)
How about the machines in PA that had THOUSANDS of votes for kerry before polling began? Perhaps one should consider that in regions of Ohio there were more registered democrats than there were eligible voters. Funny how this information is either forgotten, left out or ignored.
Unfortunately I think the world is being misinformed to a large degree. Believe me, I am a moderate who does not support either party. I am a registered democrat. Did I vote for Busch...Yes..
I am from Massachusetts, Kerry's state. I know Kerry. He has been a public figure for more than half of my lifetime. I actually trust Busch more...I would trust a martian more (well, not really). Do I agree with all of the Presidents policies? Hell no. Do I agree with the war in Iraq. Absolutely not! Could Kerry fix it? I think that is laughable.
Listen, we didn't exactly have a choice between Abraham Lincoln and George Washington here. The MAJORITY chose the 'leader?' they felt would be best for the US and US troops.
I have made it a point to listen to ALL aspects of the news. That includes flipping to page 92 of the paper. That is where you will find balanced news......not on the front page. The whole truth does NOT make it to the headlines, and in some places the whole truth never makes it at all.
Quite frankly, from where you are sitting, I don't think you can make an INFORMED opinion. You are, of course entitled to pushing your uninformed opinion.....
Good day..
I intend not to get into a drawn out discussion. However, I must say that the media is emphasizing certain aspects of the recent election, and not others. There has been MUCH evidence of tampering on the part of the democrats...Much more so than by republicans. Unfortunately, thanks to media bias a great majority will not hear of that. (I know, I keep coming back to media bias..but it is absolutely the issue)
How about the machines in PA that had THOUSANDS of votes for kerry before polling began? Perhaps one should consider that in regions of Ohio there were more registered democrats than there were eligible voters. Funny how this information is either forgotten, left out or ignored.
Unfortunately I think the world is being misinformed to a large degree. Believe me, I am a moderate who does not support either party. I am a registered democrat. Did I vote for Busch...Yes..
I am from Massachusetts, Kerry's state. I know Kerry. He has been a public figure for more than half of my lifetime. I actually trust Busch more...I would trust a martian more (well, not really). Do I agree with all of the Presidents policies? Hell no. Do I agree with the war in Iraq. Absolutely not! Could Kerry fix it? I think that is laughable.
Listen, we didn't exactly have a choice between Abraham Lincoln and George Washington here. The MAJORITY chose the 'leader?' they felt would be best for the US and US troops.
I have made it a point to listen to ALL aspects of the news. That includes flipping to page 92 of the paper. That is where you will find balanced news......not on the front page. The whole truth does NOT make it to the headlines, and in some places the whole truth never makes it at all.
Quite frankly, from where you are sitting, I don't think you can make an INFORMED opinion. You are, of course entitled to pushing your uninformed opinion.....
Good day..
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