Something serious about ByBee's QP's?

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Christer said:
Are you really sure it is an urban legend? Why was the british
research mentioned in fairly reliable techincal magazines.

Here's a snippet from a Scientific American article on difficulties along the way of solving the mystery of insect flight:

That difficulty has even made its way into an urban legend of science, typically recounted as "a scientist 'proved' that a bumblebee can't fly" and often cited as an inspiring example for persevering in the face of overbearing dogma. The bumblebee story can be traced back to a 1934 book by entomologist Antoine Magnan, who refers to a calculation by his assistant André Sainte-Laguë, who was an engineer. The conclusion was presumably based on the fact that the maximum possible lift produced by aircraft wings as small as a bumblebee's wings and traveling as slowly as a bee in flight would be much less than the weight of a bee.

Do you have any evidence of old proofs that they can fly.

It's not a matter of proving they can fly. The zillions of bumblebees flying about the planet already provides that proof. It's been a matter of understanding HOW they're able to fly.

Which is quite a different issue than we have here with the QPs. We don't have any self-evident Bybee Bumblebee. There's not one shred of objective evidence that the QPs do any of the things that they're objectively claimed to do.

In other words, you have someone making declarative, objective statements of fact about something which they say they don't understand and have no objective evidence that it's doing anything at all beside behaving as a 0.02 ohm resistor.

Further, did you read that thing I wrote about the same problem with birds, in my recent response to John. I knew that guy a long ago and he game me the impression of being very clever and very serious about birds. Obviously he has been obsessed for at least twenty years with mathematical modelling of them.

Yes. But whether birds or bumblebees, their flight is self-evident. There is no such self-evidence with regard to the QPs and the claims made by Bybee.

Come to think of it, it has been known for over hundred years that bumblebees can fly. Didn't Mussorgsky write "the flight of the bumblebee"? 🙂

No no, that's also a big mixup too. Something got lost in the translation.

Mussorgsky had heard that it was impossible for bumblebees to fly. Feeling sorry for them, the piece that he wrote was actually titled, before the garbled translation, "PLIGHT of the Bumblebee." The piece was used to kick off the big Brogans for Bumblebees campaign, to help provide shoes for impoverished bumblebees.

se
 
Hi,

In audioland we can still cure alot of harshness with the judicious use of mains filtering, snubbers across diodes, better diodes, well thought out design or a tube rectified PS even for SS amps.

Assuming you do have an interest in audio, please read that quote again and I assure you no aspirine will be needed.

To cure digititis you need more than aspirine; a tube rectum fried PS is a good start, add some gain clowns and a OPT and you may just end up with a new kind of aspirine for the modern world?

1984? George Orwell? Animal Farm? Who am I anyway?😉 😉 😉

Scary?😉
 
Hi,

No no, that's also a big mixup too. Something got lost in the translation.

Good of you to remind me...I still owe Jocko a decent recipe for his bolognese sauce.

Wich all of a sudden reminds me of "Pictures of an Exhibition" by Mussorgsky, although I really don't know why....

Must be al those quantum dots....Bummer.:xeye:

Bumblebee,😉
 
john curl said:
SE will tell you that I am doing something else, but I ask you, what has he done for audio that adds to the state-of-the-art. Use input transformers? Oh boy!

You want real state-of-the-art, John? Bedini and Bybee are way behind the curve. If you want to be on the cutting edge, you need to hook up with Belt.

P.W.B. Electronics

Hmmm...

Bedini, Bybee and Belt.

BUMBLE-B's!

😀

se
 
Steve,

OK, I get you point. Either I misunderstood you, or I was
posting too late at night to think clearly. Of course, it is not
about proving that the bumblebees (or birds) fly, but about understanding how. Claiming to have a proof that they don't
fly, as that guy did is, of course, plain stupid, assuming he
actually made such a claim. Anyway, applying theory and
getting a result contradicting something which is beyond
doubt true clearly shows there is something wrong with
the theory or the application thereof.

So, back to Bybees, or was it aspirine or .....? 🙂
 
fdegrove said:

Wich all of a sudden reminds me of "Pictures of an Exhibition" by Mussorgsky, although I really don't know why....



Why did you have to bring that up!!!! Now you reminded me
that there is an interesting orchestration of it by Funtek,
quite different from the usual one (Ravel, is it?). I ought to
find a recording of the Funtek version, which I haven't heard
in 20 years or so, but I have already ordered too many CDs in
the past few days. Hey, I even ordered CDs from a Czech
webshop for the first time yesterday. Good prices on Supraphon.


Sorry again Pjotr, but but, whenever did a thread last be about
what it is about on this forum? 🙂
 
Christer said:
Sorry again Pjotr, but but, whenever did a thread last be about
what it is about on this forum? 🙂

Don’t worry, John has given an answer in some way. But as far as I understand the follow-ups, I can beat distortion and clean up the sound of my system with aspirin and paracetamol, as well as bumblebees.

With aspirin and paracetamol I have had successful results on some days, I prefer paracemol myself. But I am quite doubtful if the bumblebees will work, besides that they are difficult to obtain and to manage I think :clown:

Cheers 😉

Edit:

And oh eh, if you're interested, Emerson Lake and Palmer also made a version of "Pictures at an Exhibition" And one of the best orchestral ones is the one conducted by Sir Georg Solti from 1980 on Decca IMHO.
 
Pjotr said:


Don’t worry, John has given an answer in some way. But as far as I understand the follow-ups, I can beat distortion and clean up the sound of my system with aspirin and paracetamol, as well as bumblebees.

Oh but you see the bumblebees work, but since they are
rather friendly and harmless they are not by far as effective as
wasps or bees. Get one of these into your listening room and
I can almost guarantee that you forget about all the noise
and distorsion. You may foget about the music too, but there
is a downside to everything. 🙂
 
Re: A Point To Consider..............

mrfeedback said:
A friend of mine reckons that paracetamol causes headaches.

That’s well known, but only if you take too much on a daily basis, same with alcohol and coffee. Although American coffee appears to be as harmless as water mostly.

Cheers 😉
 
My Brain Has Not Fallen Out Yet...............

"I hope this gives you, more open minded individuals. an example of how Bybee devices are used and when and where they tend to work............"
John, thankyou for your appraisal.

"For example, I have found that with batteries powering my equipment, I prefer NOT to use a Bybee."
Are you saying that as well as 'filtering' nasties in AC powered situations, these are giving an imprint/flavour that you do not always like ?

Thanks, Eric.
 
Panadol Is Savagely Addictive............

Pjotr said:
That’s well known, but only if you take too much on a daily basis, same with alcohol and coffee. Although American coffee appears to be as harmless as water mostly.
Cheers 😉
Neither of us ever took paracetamol daily - more like the occasional one or two in the morning after a big night out.
Since ceasing taking them I find that I don't need them.

Eric.
 
Well folks, I hope that I have given some useful input to someone.
For completeness, let me say a couple of things:
First, I first met John Bedini about 25 years ago. He was making a class A power amp that sounded pretty good at the time. He and I had an argument about that time, I think it was about who was to pay for dinner, and we haven't spoken much since. I don't like Bedini's personality or style, but I don't usually badmouth him about it.
However, about 5 years ago, I had the Bedini Clarifier demonstrated to me at an audio store by a friend. He just wanted to show me what it does. I heard the before and after CD treatment by the Clarifier. It works.
Now why? I don't know. Does Bedini know? I don't know that either. Still, I heard the difference.
Now, Peter Belt is always put into this discussion by Steve Eddy. I don't know Beter Belt, have never tried his 'tweaks', so I have no opinion about him. I think that having no opinion is better than criticizing what I don't know about and haven't tried.
Steve Eddy will next put our pictures in the refrigerator, in order to derail any further productive discussion, if past performance is any indication.
 
Eric,

Paracetamol and alcohol should be avoided in combination. It
can damage your brain, at least in the long run. Overdoses of
paracetamol damage your liver, but I don't know if alcohol
has any boosting effect there. On the other hand, I was told
by a physician that ASA preparates (Aspirin et. al.) does not
have any known interaction with alcohol. That was 20 years
ago, though, so there might be new results on this issue.
Of course, ASA isn't good for you stomach, which already isn't
in good shape after a night out. A secret tip from some
physicians, but they wouldn't tell a patient, is two aspirines and
a Losec when you have a hang-over. I take no responsibilty
for that either though, but I have tried even before I heard it
since it was an obvious treatment.

Any physicianas out there? Please tell ASAP if I said something
that might endanger the health. I don't want to hurt any
fellow members.


Edit: I should have added that in my experience, the best
hangover treatment is to make sure you drink a lot lot of
water before you go to bed. At least one litre, more if possible.
Hangover is caused by dehydration due to the alcohol, so if
you compensate this with a lot of water before the hangover
starts, you can often avoid it.
 
john curl said:
However, about 5 years ago, I had the Bedini Clarifier demonstrated to me at an audio store by a friend. He just wanted to show me what it does. I heard the before and after CD treatment by the Clarifier. It works.

Still don't get it, do you?

Steve Eddy will next put our pictures in the refrigerator, in order to derail any further productive discussion, if past performance is any indication.

Bringing up placing photogrpahs of yourself in your freezer is no less productive than what you just said about the Clarifier.

Using the EXACT SAME criteria as you used to determine that the Clarifier "works," placing photographs of yourself in your freezer also "works."

People have placed photographs of themselves and their equipment in their freezers. They heard a difference. It works.

What makes your experience with the Quantum Purifiers and Bedini Clarifier any more valid or more productive than the experiences of others with regard to freezing photograhs?

Why don't you try it for yourself? You've tried the Quantum Purifiers. You've tried the Bedini Clarifier. Trying the photographs won't cost you a thing.

se
 
Oh boy! puh it was a lot of esoteric outer space voodoo hifi purifiers here, why don't show the diy people some good schematics on how to make a state of the art preamp and power amplifier without any hard to get components.

Come on JC let us se your schematics as the famous JC-2 and Vendetta RIAA.😎
 
No, I do not publish my latest schematics. I make my living from designing audio products. I first published my JC-2 and JC-3 designs, because they were already several years old, and Mark was not paying me a royalty on them. For the record, I use Bybee devices with my Vendetta and latest designs. I am not here to give away my best efforts.
 
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