Smoked one cigarette as a kid, noted extremely addictive after effects. Didn’t smoke from then on.
Experimented in uni, interesting effect and useful to see/break some educational/parental conditioning. Again not my thing and made a mental decision to draw the line after the last night of university. Not smoked/done anything since.
Smoking isn’t good across the board in my view and for a government sponsored health service, it places a large cost in supporting the detrement to people’s health. All paid by the taxpayer.
Experimented in uni, interesting effect and useful to see/break some educational/parental conditioning. Again not my thing and made a mental decision to draw the line after the last night of university. Not smoked/done anything since.
Smoking isn’t good across the board in my view and for a government sponsored health service, it places a large cost in supporting the detrement to people’s health. All paid by the taxpayer.
Tried one of my mum's cigarettes when I was about 6 thought it was disgusting.
Only tried it because the smoke from the hot end was foul and assumed a miracle occurred at the other end. Otherwise why would anyone?
Only tried it because the smoke from the hot end was foul and assumed a miracle occurred at the other end. Otherwise why would anyone?
At least where I live, smoking is becoming very uncool and almost viewed upon as a phycological disorder. In fact, only 1% of the young people up to the age of 24 smoke on daily basis. 👍
How about somebody here use tobacco in form of snuff?
It will spare your lungs.
And we have chewing tobbacco.
It will spare your lungs.
And we have chewing tobbacco.
An interesting point. What happens inside commercial packaged cigarettes is a mystery and mostly not a good one.Do not leave the part of the industrial made cigarette for light up latter.
Best highlighted by opening a pre-rolled cigarette out on some paper and then put some rolling tobacco beside it.
They don't even look alike!
I find MJ can be very more-ish, but it can be like a classic siren (the kind that steers captains onto the rocks). For one thing, it can be very manipulative and can weaken your protective aura, in a manner of speaking. I found myself justifying how great it was in every way imaginable, even though the stuff I had was mostly awful, looking back. It made interaction with some people tricky, as though the mere smell of it had some kind of subliminal hormonal effect, inviting people to browbeat me into submission for no reason. Being able to observe and learn these aspects of how the mind works was also very interesting. Definitely a double-edged sword. Maybe prohibition made the strains 'harder' over time, I don't know.
On the other hand, CBD reminded me of tramadol, of all things. Tramadol was this opioid I'd had for a back injury, years ago, and it was weirdly depressing despite numbing the physical aches. I've seen the CBD oils do wonders for PTSD type stuff, but, for me at least, the smoked or vaped forms were frankly a lot worse than not taking anything at all.
I had only 3 coffees last week! The last month I've been almost free of coffee, and definitely have more energy and without feeling grumpy in the mornings.
On the other hand, CBD reminded me of tramadol, of all things. Tramadol was this opioid I'd had for a back injury, years ago, and it was weirdly depressing despite numbing the physical aches. I've seen the CBD oils do wonders for PTSD type stuff, but, for me at least, the smoked or vaped forms were frankly a lot worse than not taking anything at all.
I had only 3 coffees last week! The last month I've been almost free of coffee, and definitely have more energy and without feeling grumpy in the mornings.
From a UK perspective, this died out a couple of centuries ago. The health issue with mouth cancer is all we here over here.How about somebody here use tobacco in form of snuff?
It will spare your lungs.
And we have chewing tobbacco.
Vaping is rife in the UK and has replaced smoking as the socially tolerated form. It’s illegal to smoke inside a public or business building for example and the same is true for vaping.
The concern i have for vaping is two fold - metals/hot vaping coils and ingredients in the vape mix.
Personally i would ban any addictive chemicals, ban any harmful chemicals and then after that people can vape whatever.
My brother lost a lung recently due to his inability to quit. He’s only 57.
He’s got other issues as well…needless to say, he’s in a bad way.
Even after losing the lung I suspect he was possibly smoking.
It is a vile way to slowly commit suicide and heart braking to watch.
He’s got other issues as well…needless to say, he’s in a bad way.
Even after losing the lung I suspect he was possibly smoking.
It is a vile way to slowly commit suicide and heart braking to watch.
While I don't use any chemical drug other than maybe chocolate for 3..5times in a month, and the alcohol produced in my guts by the natural fermentation of sugar intake from food, I wouldn't ban any drug.The more you ban them, the less options you leave to people and actually the alcohol addiction is equally dangerous if not more dangerous than heroin.
A religious person's brain produces similar drugs to those released during sex when he attends a liturgic prayer where all sorts of rare good smelling rosins are burned, high pitched songs are sang...etc...the morals policing done by a religious person to the nonreligious person is harming the atheists too, but you can't judge them too much.In my society if you don't drink, people say you must be either a too religious person or a c ..t...so the first thing an addicted person does is judging other's addiction to something else .The ban on drugs is just a way of controlling people, favouring tobacco and alcohol manufacturing.It should be left to people's choice how they like to kill themselves or if they want to be productive or not.The tax on income and on the place you live is a form of slavery we hide behind "civilization" .A tribe living in a tent on nobody's land , picking fruits and hunting for food was way more civilized than us.We're just enslaved by some who pretend that the private property is the base of every morals and progress , but someone who has a huge property on a town lends it to his or other employees, immigrants also raising renting prices these days , so that he can cover the property taxes while he can get huge loans from a bank and run bussinesses on the same property he's lending.If you pay a rent all you dream is having enough money left for the kids , food and clothes and maybe one day you'll be able to buy a house yourself , but you won't be able to get a huge loan on that to start a bussiness and you'll be old enough to have lost all your passion to do any bussiness so with all regrets in mind you have a neat way to drink more alcohol and smoke more tobaco...This is not everyone's story, but almost everyone's story on Earth.Societies that put more bans on drugs usually are the ones where social inequality is also the highest.
Think of this:
For hundreds of years if not millenias, our grandmothers used a local form of cannabis for two reasons: one to make brooms, two to use their seeds once a year around christmas and make the most delicious cake you can imagine .As kids we enjoyed that a lot around New Year's eve.
Now they came with a law restricting anyone groing that plant although absolutely nobody in the country side ever used it for anything else .My parents were very addicted tobaco smokers.It never even crossed their minds to use that plant for a joint although in their youths is was found litterally on everyone's land.It looks a lot like indian cannabis, but it's not that exact species.It does have some halucinogens in it, but nobody ever thought using it for anything like that.It wasn't banned under the communists, but it is banned now...We had litterally no drugs allowed or used other than alcohol and tobaco in our country under the most opressive communist regime and nobody even gave a thought to using cannabis for a joint although it was raised everywhere, on every land.It's all about local traditions and habbits.What I find really bad is that poor people who did rely on selling that good cake around christmas lost even that as a way to earn some money.
Ridiculous enough, the bussinesses buy now those seeds from other countries as they do with poppy seeds too that we import from turkey or afghanistan to make delicious cakes...The local pharma industry can't rely on poppy seeds raised locally for opium based drugs like Tramadol or morphine .No , they have to buy it from Afghanistan paying money to talibans ...cause that's what we all wanted to do, isn't it?!!!!...help the talibans...
The ban on any substance called a drug is only a leverage on controlling people means and ways to get on in life so they can be productive for the rich .
I am productive only for the chocolate industry, but at least some tribes in Ghana or Peru can have a meal...If you smoke tobacco, is tobacco a part of your country's industry, does it help your locals or are you just contributing to some rich intermediaries become even richer? At least with alcohol we know it helps farmers to sell their rotten fruits in a way...
By the way my both parents died because of smoking tobacco for a lifetime...40...57 years of smoking as an indirect cause of death...
A religious person's brain produces similar drugs to those released during sex when he attends a liturgic prayer where all sorts of rare good smelling rosins are burned, high pitched songs are sang...etc...the morals policing done by a religious person to the nonreligious person is harming the atheists too, but you can't judge them too much.In my society if you don't drink, people say you must be either a too religious person or a c ..t...so the first thing an addicted person does is judging other's addiction to something else .The ban on drugs is just a way of controlling people, favouring tobacco and alcohol manufacturing.It should be left to people's choice how they like to kill themselves or if they want to be productive or not.The tax on income and on the place you live is a form of slavery we hide behind "civilization" .A tribe living in a tent on nobody's land , picking fruits and hunting for food was way more civilized than us.We're just enslaved by some who pretend that the private property is the base of every morals and progress , but someone who has a huge property on a town lends it to his or other employees, immigrants also raising renting prices these days , so that he can cover the property taxes while he can get huge loans from a bank and run bussinesses on the same property he's lending.If you pay a rent all you dream is having enough money left for the kids , food and clothes and maybe one day you'll be able to buy a house yourself , but you won't be able to get a huge loan on that to start a bussiness and you'll be old enough to have lost all your passion to do any bussiness so with all regrets in mind you have a neat way to drink more alcohol and smoke more tobaco...This is not everyone's story, but almost everyone's story on Earth.Societies that put more bans on drugs usually are the ones where social inequality is also the highest.
Think of this:
For hundreds of years if not millenias, our grandmothers used a local form of cannabis for two reasons: one to make brooms, two to use their seeds once a year around christmas and make the most delicious cake you can imagine .As kids we enjoyed that a lot around New Year's eve.
Now they came with a law restricting anyone groing that plant although absolutely nobody in the country side ever used it for anything else .My parents were very addicted tobaco smokers.It never even crossed their minds to use that plant for a joint although in their youths is was found litterally on everyone's land.It looks a lot like indian cannabis, but it's not that exact species.It does have some halucinogens in it, but nobody ever thought using it for anything like that.It wasn't banned under the communists, but it is banned now...We had litterally no drugs allowed or used other than alcohol and tobaco in our country under the most opressive communist regime and nobody even gave a thought to using cannabis for a joint although it was raised everywhere, on every land.It's all about local traditions and habbits.What I find really bad is that poor people who did rely on selling that good cake around christmas lost even that as a way to earn some money.
Ridiculous enough, the bussinesses buy now those seeds from other countries as they do with poppy seeds too that we import from turkey or afghanistan to make delicious cakes...The local pharma industry can't rely on poppy seeds raised locally for opium based drugs like Tramadol or morphine .No , they have to buy it from Afghanistan paying money to talibans ...cause that's what we all wanted to do, isn't it?!!!!...help the talibans...
The ban on any substance called a drug is only a leverage on controlling people means and ways to get on in life so they can be productive for the rich .
I am productive only for the chocolate industry, but at least some tribes in Ghana or Peru can have a meal...If you smoke tobacco, is tobacco a part of your country's industry, does it help your locals or are you just contributing to some rich intermediaries become even richer? At least with alcohol we know it helps farmers to sell their rotten fruits in a way...
By the way my both parents died because of smoking tobacco for a lifetime...40...57 years of smoking as an indirect cause of death...
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I did on and off for a few decades, though so rarely that it hardly mattered. Since I didn't like cigarettes I thought I ought to do something tobacco. Never worked up a great enthusiasm for it, but it was an enjoyable hobby from time to time. It's much more complex that cigarette smoking, or even cigars, having the wide choice of pipe types and tobacco blends. Maybe vaping is as complex a hobby. Stopped over 20 years ago, but I still have one pipe left, my good old calabash that I bought in 1976.Is there anybody here that smoke pipe?
Vaping is even more dangerous because you can use any concentration of nicotine available ...I have a friend who's phd in phylosophy can't help him with controlling nicotine concentration at will...
I never smoked, it is disgusting. My father smoked his entire life. He died of lung cancer at 65 in 1993. The cancer floor at the hospital where he died was filled with lung cancer patients. 95 percent of the patients had smoked. 100 percent of the patients had the specific lung cancer associated with smoking. 5 percent attributed to second hand smoke..
I also avoid smoked meat. It can't be that good for you. There's lots of other ways to flavour meat.
I've been cleaning PCB's with denatured alcohol and it works very well. Make's me think I should stop drinking beer but that one is to much fun. I have quit scotch because of the smoke and the alcohol content.
I also avoid smoked meat. It can't be that good for you. There's lots of other ways to flavour meat.
I've been cleaning PCB's with denatured alcohol and it works very well. Make's me think I should stop drinking beer but that one is to much fun. I have quit scotch because of the smoke and the alcohol content.
I quit smoking tobacco two years ago when I had a pulmonary embolism. I did not have any problem quitting and I didn't have any cravings either. All I had to do was think about waking up on the floor in my office, foggy headed and wondering what happened. I hate cigarettes now; I can't stand to be around the smoke.
I still smoke buddha pretty much daily. I hardly have to take one or two puffs and I'm set for the day.
I can hardly describe how much better I feel after quitting tobacco. Two years after quitting I have regained so much stamina. No more fatigue. No more chest pains or shortness of breath. No more coughing. My failing health has rebounded in a most remarkable way. I feel 20 years younger.
To be fair, I also lost about 60 pounds and went on a rigid diet and exercise regime, and brought myself back from the brink of diabetes. My doctors were recommending gastric bypass surgery, hypnosis, and a cocktail of drugs. Famous last words "It will take you FOREVER to lose the weight and get your blood sugar down." Fast forward ten months, and it's mission accomplished. I had my hernia surgery (which they wouldn't do until I got my weight way down) and I still have to lose about 30 pounds. I am now metabolically healthy and enjoy a much higher quality of life.
Skip the cigarettes.
I still smoke buddha pretty much daily. I hardly have to take one or two puffs and I'm set for the day.
I can hardly describe how much better I feel after quitting tobacco. Two years after quitting I have regained so much stamina. No more fatigue. No more chest pains or shortness of breath. No more coughing. My failing health has rebounded in a most remarkable way. I feel 20 years younger.
To be fair, I also lost about 60 pounds and went on a rigid diet and exercise regime, and brought myself back from the brink of diabetes. My doctors were recommending gastric bypass surgery, hypnosis, and a cocktail of drugs. Famous last words "It will take you FOREVER to lose the weight and get your blood sugar down." Fast forward ten months, and it's mission accomplished. I had my hernia surgery (which they wouldn't do until I got my weight way down) and I still have to lose about 30 pounds. I am now metabolically healthy and enjoy a much higher quality of life.
Skip the cigarettes.
Yeah. I lost the love of my life to lungcancer and a sister to COPD. Both far too young, and clearly related to smoking.I can lower it further. My uncle died yesterday of lung cancer... he was 84. OTOH my father who only smoked socially for a few years when it was necessary for sales reps to offer ciggies to their clients is getting increasly down at being the last one standing amongst friend and family.
My sister didn't even have the character to stop smoking between COPD seizures, As I said, depressing.
Jan
Lung cancer can't be treated usually other than by cutting a lung, but it is still a cheap treatment compared to other chronical disease.And it makes serious sense for state's financials as they don't have to pay you a pension once dead.So tobacco addiction makes sense a a state's revenue policy.It keeps you active long enough to reach your pension time and kills you right there.Cannabis makes too many artists and artists aren't easy to control, neither their funds, they don't wanna pay taxes either...
I know what you mean...my mother quit smoking only the day she found out she can't swallow food anymore...thyroid cancer strangling her throat...it was too late ...one year in 4 hospitals...She died before her second year of pension finished., As I said, depressing.
Jan
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My brother started smoking at 14 or 15. By the time he was 40, he would chain smoke 5 or 6 cigarettes at every "smoke break." Nobody I knew smoked more that him.
He died at 56 years old of congestive heart failure and multiple cancers. Every biopsy came up positive for cancer. He died within three weeks of diagnosis. He smoked until the day he died. He even smoked on the day he died.
He died at 56 years old of congestive heart failure and multiple cancers. Every biopsy came up positive for cancer. He died within three weeks of diagnosis. He smoked until the day he died. He even smoked on the day he died.
.It keeps you active long enough to reach your pension time and kills you right there.
Like a good slave.
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