Hello, what's the smallest sub you've ever known or heard? I refer to size between 15-30 liters and 10'' drivers.
I've listened for example a Klipsch KSW10 and for its size is a little miracle: about 25 liters in classic vented downfiring configuration. It uses a 10'' driver called K-1070-K, does anyone know its T/S parameters?
The only one I've ever seen is a Peerless XLS application note using a 10'' driver in 20 liters but whit a passive radiator, rather expensive system, while I'll have to contain costs.
What may be the magician of a Klipsch's-like driver? What may be the best T/S values for these small subs, even in car audio range?
Thank you very much.
I've listened for example a Klipsch KSW10 and for its size is a little miracle: about 25 liters in classic vented downfiring configuration. It uses a 10'' driver called K-1070-K, does anyone know its T/S parameters?
The only one I've ever seen is a Peerless XLS application note using a 10'' driver in 20 liters but whit a passive radiator, rather expensive system, while I'll have to contain costs.
What may be the magician of a Klipsch's-like driver? What may be the best T/S values for these small subs, even in car audio range?
Thank you very much.
Awfully loose subject there. I've seen a 2-3 ltr box with the W3-1876S that was impressive. I've seen 0.5ft^3 box with W6-1139 that was really nice, as well as a 7-8 ltr vented box with the W5-1138 subwoofer. The latter 2 here were really impressive.
How about the smallest, most impressive subwoofer you've experienced? I honestly say that title has been received by my 'Overdrive 10' 4th order PR-bandpass sub. Dayton UM10-22, Dayton RSS315PR, and a Yung SD500-6 plate amplifier. 26 ltrs internal volumes totaled, and enough oomph to really impress you.
Later,
Wolf
How about the smallest, most impressive subwoofer you've experienced? I honestly say that title has been received by my 'Overdrive 10' 4th order PR-bandpass sub. Dayton UM10-22, Dayton RSS315PR, and a Yung SD500-6 plate amplifier. 26 ltrs internal volumes totaled, and enough oomph to really impress you.
Later,
Wolf
Hello wolf-teeth you're welcome! All projects you mentioned are joint by using all low sensitivity drivers, with particular reference to Tang Band. I've already built something using a TB W8-2022, characterized by similar formulation (medium Qts, low Fs, low Vas, low efficiency), in a small PR enclosure, but I'd want to change root, efficiency is for me an important factor.
I've built a vented enclosure for my Peerless XXLS 830846 10'' DVC driver, but to "make it sing" it was necessary 64 liters (because of the slight different measured T/S parameters respect declared ones), very very well sounding but too big for my tastes.
For this reason I was fascinated by mentioned Klipsch subwoofer, rather certainly not using a low-efficiency driver.
I've built a vented enclosure for my Peerless XXLS 830846 10'' DVC driver, but to "make it sing" it was necessary 64 liters (because of the slight different measured T/S parameters respect declared ones), very very well sounding but too big for my tastes.
For this reason I was fascinated by mentioned Klipsch subwoofer, rather certainly not using a low-efficiency driver.
Hoffman's Iron Law = of the 3 considerations in bass, you can only pick 2: small size, high sensitivity, and low bass extension.
Here's my guess- the Klipsch is tuned higher than optimal, in a smaller box than optimal, and has enough power to overcome the sensitivity problem. Unless it is a high-Q driver, then the output is favored over low-end extension. It's likely not all that different from most other drivers out there in subwoofers; especially commercial units.
Later,
Wolf
Here's my guess- the Klipsch is tuned higher than optimal, in a smaller box than optimal, and has enough power to overcome the sensitivity problem. Unless it is a high-Q driver, then the output is favored over low-end extension. It's likely not all that different from most other drivers out there in subwoofers; especially commercial units.
Later,
Wolf
Oh- one more thing. My Overdrive 10 is same length as the Klipsch, and 0.25" smaller in height and width than the Klipsch subwoofer you show.
Later,
Wolf
Later,
Wolf
Generally if one wants the most bass in the smallest space, try a high quality car audio subwoofer.
The JL audio 10w3 for example has 14mm of liner excursion and works in a sealed box of around 18 litres.
The 10w6 has 19mm of excursion and works in a 15.5 litre box, given 500 watts or so these subs will give plenty of bass and you can secret several of them about the room unobtrusively.
The JL audio 10w3 for example has 14mm of liner excursion and works in a sealed box of around 18 litres.
The 10w6 has 19mm of excursion and works in a 15.5 litre box, given 500 watts or so these subs will give plenty of bass and you can secret several of them about the room unobtrusively.
Those tiny Tang Band drivers seem to operate in their own niche. What's the secret to their performance? Why aren't other manufacturers offering similar components? (Or are they?)
Is it an intellectual property concern?
Is it an intellectual property concern?
The one that started this craziness, the original Carver Sunfire True Subwoofer: Sunfire True Subwoofer review, test, price
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