Hi Salas
After much twisting and repositioning of the two TX, I finally got an acceptable compromise minimizing hum.
There is a sweet spot were I can hear the image focus.
The true double mono setup also brings improvements in detail and speed.(It is very difficult to reach because turning only one TX will reduce noise in one channel and increase on the other so you need to turn the other TX to compensate..... All this with power on !!! )
I guess using only one TX is the way to go. Choosing this configuration I will use only one winding + one rectifier bridge to avoid rectfiing currents to loop inside the TX.
After that I am not sure if I can use two smoothing caps (one per channel) to feed the separate shunts or if I must use only one smoothing cap after the rectification to feed both shunts.
🙂
After much twisting and repositioning of the two TX, I finally got an acceptable compromise minimizing hum.
There is a sweet spot were I can hear the image focus.
The true double mono setup also brings improvements in detail and speed.(It is very difficult to reach because turning only one TX will reduce noise in one channel and increase on the other so you need to turn the other TX to compensate..... All this with power on !!! )
I guess using only one TX is the way to go. Choosing this configuration I will use only one winding + one rectifier bridge to avoid rectfiing currents to loop inside the TX.
After that I am not sure if I can use two smoothing caps (one per channel) to feed the separate shunts or if I must use only one smoothing cap after the rectification to feed both shunts.
🙂
You can branch out with RC or LC to channel filters most certainly. Counting on your experience, that is why I got in to the hassle and high price of bringing in the R-Core so to avoid as much as I can since I fancy one box too.
Already have most of the parts for my next 57dB riaa including the case.
I chose a 80mm high case before experimenting with TX positioning so now I have this issue:
Minimum hum happens with the toroid on it´s side and I can not find an R core with 80mm... can I expect the r-core to be as good positioned flat inside the case ?
I chose a 80mm high case before experimenting with TX positioning so now I have this issue:
Minimum hum happens with the toroid on it´s side and I can not find an R core with 80mm... can I expect the r-core to be as good positioned flat inside the case ?
It is supposed so, but I will have more info when I get all the parts and build. Another line of thought would be for the boards to be made short enough so they go vertical in your case? Thus keeping the toroids base down.
I will have to review the p2p layout to acomodate the bypass cap over R2 and make space for the DIP Switch so I will try to make it slimmer 🙂
After installing the second toroid, I lost the hum coming from the rectifiers loop and gained a lot of definition.
This produced a subjective shift on the tone producing a slightly thin edgy sound.
To regain the fullness of sound I replaced the 470u35v Pana FM over the voltage reference resistor in the shunts by a much bigger 470u50v Nichicon Muse 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Now I am again rewarded by a full bass with detail and smooth highs.
My Voicing results are finally spot on with my previous thoughts.
Ricardo
After installing the second toroid, I lost the hum coming from the rectifiers loop and gained a lot of definition.
This produced a subjective shift on the tone producing a slightly thin edgy sound.
To regain the fullness of sound I replaced the 470u35v Pana FM over the voltage reference resistor in the shunts by a much bigger 470u50v Nichicon Muse 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Now I am again rewarded by a full bass with detail and smooth highs.
My Voicing results are finally spot on with my previous thoughts.
Ricardo
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Maybe your 2 toroids are turned to a mutual field cancellation angle. So now you got to ''voice'' it on a cleaner grunge basis.😉
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To regain the fullness of sound I replaced the 470u35v Pana FM over the voltage reference resistor in the shunts by a much bigger 470u50v Nichicon Muse 🙂🙂🙂🙂
Ricardo
This again confirms the importance of what capacitor is in that position. Ricardo, did you bypass that capacitor with a film cap as well? Some people have reported very good results with two parallel caps, one of them a good film cap.
That is a good idea... I have some homeless 3000pF polystyrenes around 🙂
The toroids lower noise is obtained by positioning the output wires at 180º.... The position is critical to less than 1º.....
Ricardo
The toroids lower noise is obtained by positioning the output wires at 180º.... The position is critical to less than 1º.....
Ricardo
Muse caps alone give very good bass but the sound seems "muffled / veiled" so I bypassed them with 4.7nF radial styroflex.
While keeping the good bass, a good quantity of "sparkle" and "space" was added.
Fingered strings are much more lifelike now.
I will let it burn for a while but IMO it is a keeper...🙂
Ricardo
While keeping the good bass, a good quantity of "sparkle" and "space" was added.
Fingered strings are much more lifelike now.
I will let it burn for a while but IMO it is a keeper...🙂
Ricardo
Thanks guys! It's nice to know there is a good place to go (here) when I need access to voicing expertise! 

Hi Iko..... quite glad to be of help...... Happy new Year 🙂
Yesterday I had a good listen and left the riaa on during the night (remenber my previous issues related with spitting noises on power on ?.... All gone ! The fault was in the zeners 🙂).
The bypass on the muse proved a very good match and the sound presents now good bass presence allied with detail and attack.
My next mod will be the bypass cap on the first jfet to increase gain on the 48dB riaa.
Hi Salas
Can I use higher value caps there.... In your 0.2mV riaa I see you used 4700u... Would you elaborate in the resistor bypass tech so I can better understand it ?
Ricardo
Yesterday I had a good listen and left the riaa on during the night (remenber my previous issues related with spitting noises on power on ?.... All gone ! The fault was in the zeners 🙂).
The bypass on the muse proved a very good match and the sound presents now good bass presence allied with detail and attack.
My next mod will be the bypass cap on the first jfet to increase gain on the 48dB riaa.
Hi Salas
Can I use higher value caps there.... In your 0.2mV riaa I see you used 4700u... Would you elaborate in the resistor bypass tech so I can better understand it ?
Ricardo
The low one has lower R hence needs more C so to bypass as deep. 2200uF for yours will be ample. See for Muse+little plastic again.
Happy New Year Ricardo, Salas, and everybody else!
Well, you're having nice progress, it's nice to see that. Glad to hear you solved the spitting noises problem!
Nice way of describing it!
Well, you're having nice progress, it's nice to see that. Glad to hear you solved the spitting noises problem!

Please help, could somebody recommend me heatsinks types from Mouser or Digikey neededs for IRFP9140, with part number will be better🙂?
I ready matched all the 2SK170 bought to Spencer, also all the BC550C.
Finally I have all parts except:
-The heatsinks.
-The Shinkoh resistors for NJFET RIAA, today I will order to PCX.
-The Panasonics caps AI TSHA 10.000uF/63V, instead the Pan's next friday will get these Epcos Sikorel 10.000uF/63V:
Thanks
I ready matched all the 2SK170 bought to Spencer, also all the BC550C.
Finally I have all parts except:
-The heatsinks.
-The Shinkoh resistors for NJFET RIAA, today I will order to PCX.
-The Panasonics caps AI TSHA 10.000uF/63V, instead the Pan's next friday will get these Epcos Sikorel 10.000uF/63V:

Thanks
Hi Merlin
Look for something like this: AAVID THERMALLOY - 6299BG - HEAT SINK, TO-220/218, 3.6°C/W AAVID THERMALLOY|6299BG|HEAT SINK, TO-220/218, 3.6°C/W | Farnell Portugal
I like your parts choice.
Remenber the cap over the voltage reference in the shunt must be very well chosen...
Ricardo
Look for something like this: AAVID THERMALLOY - 6299BG - HEAT SINK, TO-220/218, 3.6°C/W AAVID THERMALLOY|6299BG|HEAT SINK, TO-220/218, 3.6°C/W | Farnell Portugal
I like your parts choice.
Remenber the cap over the voltage reference in the shunt must be very well chosen...
Ricardo
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