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I`ll do the same with 12BH7. I`v discovered that the anode resistor for ECC99 is 30K and the cathode resistor is 22K. Updated to the schematic.
 

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According to LTSpice with ecc99s all connected with the second pair grid not connected (as per your design) you're getting about 3.9mA across the Ra resistors. What you are also getting with 1mili-ohm (ie 1m rather than 1M) is about 20mA grid flow.

I've put in a voltage bias for the grids at your measured 161.5V and also put in a 100Vpp 1KHz sine - that gives about 8Vpp which is ok for the ecc99 grid.

With the second pair grids connected you get about 7mA across each Ra and about 8Vpp output.. (I've not modelled the very small coupling caps on the output).

What's your NFB connected to? It seems to connect direct to the cathode of the front end.
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The issue is you have a grand total of 33V across the ecc99. Which isn't going to result in a real world nice sound. The cathode sits at 162V and the anode is sitting at 195V. When you really want about 150V across them. They have 3.6mA idle.. which is really bad for both the 12BH7A and the ecc99 which for example an idle point would typically be 9-13mA and 24mA respectively. You're not hitting the max of 200Vdc peak above the heater.
 
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Just LTSPiced this.



According to LTSpice with ecc99s all connected with the second pair grid not connected (as per your design) you're getting about 3.9mA across the Ra resistors. What you are also getting with 1mili-ohm (ie 1m rather than 1M) is about 20mA grid flow.

I've put in a voltage bias for the grids at your measured 161.5V and also put in a 100Vpp 1KHz sine - that gives about 8Vpp which is ok for the ecc99 grid.

With the second pair grids connected you get about 7mA across each Ra and about 8Vpp output.. (I've not modelled the very small coupling caps on the output).

What's your NFB connected to? It seems to connect direct to the cathode of the front end.View attachment 1048446

View attachment 1048447

The issue is you have a grand total of 33V across the ecc99. Which isn't going to result in a real world nice sound. The cathode sits at 162V and the anode is sitting at 195V. When you really want about 150V across them. They have 3.6mA idle.. which is really bad for both the 12BH7A and the ecc99 which for example an idle point would typically be 9-13mA and 24mA respectively. You're not hitting the max of 200Vdc peak above the heater.
Thanks. This is the kind of stuff needed for a diy`er. Education. Not to hear that someone is pulling anybodys leg, an get sour.......
 
Just LTSPiced this.



According to LTSpice with ecc99s all connected with the second pair grid not connected (as per your design) you're getting about 3.9mA across the Ra resistors. What you are also getting with 1mili-ohm (ie 1m rather than 1M) is about 20mA grid flow.

I've put in a voltage bias for the grids at your measured 161.5V and also put in a 100Vpp 1KHz sine - that gives about 8Vpp which is ok for the ecc99 grid.

With the second pair grids connected you get about 7mA across each Ra and about 8Vpp output.. (I've not modelled the very small coupling caps on the output).

What's your NFB connected to? It seems to connect direct to the cathode of the front end.View attachment 1048446

View attachment 1048447

The issue is you have a grand total of 33V across the ecc99. Which isn't going to result in a real world nice sound. The cathode sits at 162V and the anode is sitting at 195V. When you really want about 150V across them. They have 3.6mA idle.. which is really bad for both the 12BH7A and the ecc99 which for example an idle point would typically be 9-13mA and 24mA respectively. You're not hitting the max of 200Vdc peak above the heater.
The NFB is just a 47K connected to the front end. Any suggestion what would be the best solution to solve the "problem"?