Scheu Premiere vs. Transrotor Fat Bob

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lohk said:
why dont you start to make your own, maybe even using - pun intended - a wooden platter?
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I got sooo much stuff in my place which waits to be finished, it would be a 3 years project. I thought about diy, but if you add all components buying a Premiere with 9" base and 80mm platter would be about 1700,-- € and diy the base would be about 1100,--€ plus base !

Fatbob S is about 1800,--€

At the moment I rather prefer the Scheu just because this acrylic 80mm platter is much cooler than the alu Transrotor, without having heard the Scheu.

Uli

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#6
Hi,

I heard Fatbob S with Rega and Goldring Eroica few days ago and the performance was very disappointing. The owner was unhappy, too. He tried al lot with adjusting etc but did not succeed.

I'd prefer the Scheu Premier, too, but did only listen to smaller Scheu turntables until now. These are very "easy to listen to" and you can "adjust" the sound by chosing different arms. The Rega would be entry-Level for this turntable, a Schröder the best choice. Between are (Scheu ...) Unipivots which perform very good on Scheu turntables.

But note you'd need a strobe disc and flasher to set speed on the Scheu.

I hope this helps

Cheers
Christian.
 
#7
krishu said:
The Rega would be entry-Level for this turntable, a Schröder the best choice. Between are (Scheu ...) Unipivots which perform very good on Scheu turntables.

But note you'd need a strobe disc and flasher to set speed on the Scheu.
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I own a strobe disc already and the RB300 is "hypertweaked" not only with the OL armtuning, but symmetrcal wiring and XLR connectors.

Danke Christian!

deine website ist toll, hab mir dort Anregungen geholt, aber meine diy Fähigkeiten halten sich in Grenzen 😉

Für ein Metallgehäuse von Monacor mit Schäffer Frontplatte reichts grade noch, bin mehr der Elektroniker...


Uli

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#8
Hallo Uli,

I do not know the Origin Live tweaks in particular but know that those Rega arms can be improved dramatically. But there is still a limit and Rega arms tend to sound a bit "behaved", not really "free", which is the opposite of what unipivot designs usually tend to be. But anyway I am sure you'd be happy.

Apart from that: do you like to spend money on a Transrotor while the owner of the business states that he mainly listens to CDs, collects Jaguar cars and wears "Digital Radio" merchandising stuff ...?

Cheers
Christian.
 
#9
Christian,

its simply a matter of money, as I own this Rega already.
I did this OL tweaking on my own ( www.originlive.com )
New counterweight + special mounting, new wiring, slots in the arm, improvement was dramatically even on my old Planar 3 which in turn is also tweaked (OL DC-motor, homegrown psu).

I tend to buy the Scheu now, everybody who I know prefers it to the TR although I have to think the diy version over. Maybe I make a base out of "Buche" (??? in english) because I have some 3cm plates left from my new kitchen from last year.

Do you have a plan for such a base?

Uli

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#10
Hi,

Buche is beech in English, try dict.cc (without www)

Can you please tell me more about the OL motor? What brand is it? How is the power supply regulating speed? Or is it just setting speed? Is the speed load independent?

You can make a very nice turntable without spending that much money. But I suggest buying the platter and bearing, maybe the motor, too. But your OL motor would be fine I guess. Depending on platter width it can be around 500 Euros.

A plinth can also be made out of plywood (birch(Birke), beech etc.).

If you are interested, check this (my offer): diy turntable for sale ... maybe only parts.

Cheers
Christian.
 
#11
http://www.turntable-power-supply.com/turntable-motor_versions.htm

its the standard version, but I will swap the tweaked Planar 3 when I buy the Scheu platter(80mm) (450,--€), bearing (210,--€) and maybe the motor (75,--€ or complete motor assy 350,--€) too. I will try to build a 9cm plinth out of those "beech" kitchen boards (IKEA)I thought (filled with lead). ~824-1099 Euros incl. weight plus building of the plinth.
Thats about the money I got at this time.


Uli

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PS: I got to finish my X pre someday, lots to do for the next 2 years
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#12
Hi,

solid wood is not always the best choice, just think of resonances etc. ... when talking about kitchen boards Corian is something to consider ...

Can you tell me about the OL motor more in Detail? Do you have close-up photos? what is it labeled? manufacturer? How is speed set? Voltage? Is there a regulation loop?

Cheers
Christian.
 
#13
Hi
Here you can see a picture of my OL standard motor/power set:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

OL have 3 diffrent motors,one standard,and DC100 and DC200.
The pulley is glued to the motor from OL,so you must find out what kind you must have. (large/high and standard)
There are 2 diffrent knobs under the box for setting the speed in 33/45

Jan I
 
#19
Hello,

I don't know about OL;
I tried several Maxons and finally got one from Ebay Germany http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7314637770
which is speed stable enough. Voltage regulation is done with a LT1086 in standard LM317 configuration.

I still prefer the PLL motors like the one offered by Scheu Analog; I buy those tape decks from fleemarkets here and pull out the VEM 1170.2 motors and the tranformers which are quite good as well. If you need only one motor I might check my store 😉

Cheers
Christian.
 
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