Thanks,
I won't bother then as I have a good stock of 1% metal film and non of carbon ones.
Bartek
metal films look nicer too imo, hehe.
im still being amazed by the difference its made. it jus sounds altogether brighter 😀 im having to listen through all my cds again now as they all sound a little different.
Thanks,
Steve
im still being amazed by the difference its made. it jus sounds altogether brighter 😀 im having to listen through all my cds again now as they all sound a little different.
Thanks,
Steve
Elso, should I ground the quartz's metal case?
With my scope, I measured some AV voltage on it (s asine wave, 11MHz)
With my scope, I measured some AV voltage on it (s asine wave, 11MHz)
Grounding the Crystals Case
Hi Bricolo,
In most Linear Technologies papers the case is grounded. I tried it but did not hear any difference in sound.
To prevent disaster I do not remommend it as the heat can damage the crystal.
Bricolo said:
Hi Bricolo,
In most Linear Technologies papers the case is grounded. I tried it but did not hear any difference in sound.
To prevent disaster I do not remommend it as the heat can damage the crystal.
I can't comment about the sound, since I still haven't put it in the player now.
But on the scope, the output waveform didn't change at all when I grounded the quartz
You're right about the heat, I haven't thought about this. And for sure, soldering this would require time and heat 🙁
But on the scope, the output waveform didn't change at all when I grounded the quartz
You're right about the heat, I haven't thought about this. And for sure, soldering this would require time and heat 🙁
Hi Bricolo,
I think I put this picture in earlier, but here it is again. It's the standard crystal in my cdp. That PCB has a ground plane, and the crystal has a 2 or 3mm thick rubber thing to sit in. I assumed this was to insulate the crystal and ensure it doesn't become grounded
I think I put this picture in earlier, but here it is again. It's the standard crystal in my cdp. That PCB has a ground plane, and the crystal has a 2 or 3mm thick rubber thing to sit in. I assumed this was to insulate the crystal and ensure it doesn't become grounded
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possible i guess, but if they're going to put that much attention into damping components like that why haven't they given any other components much attention? of the cd players ive taken apart, i havent seen the crystal set in a rubber sleeve like that, but then i don't think any of them used a groundplane like that from what i remember.
Steve
Steve
Re: Carbon Resistors in KWAK-CLOCK
When I asked you, you adviced me carbon composition resistors! 😉
Elso Kwak said:
When I asked you, you adviced me carbon composition resistors! 😉
Re: Re: Carbon Resistors in KWAK-CLOCK
Hi Wise Guy Bricolo,
Why don't you try this one yourselve and report back?.
And please note the post below was a joke or better said a mixture of joke and good advice to make it looking serious.......:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=333462#post333462
Ever seen a carbon composition resistor in SMD?
Do you really think I believe in rounded PCB corners and tracks with round corners??? We are not talking Giga herz here!
Bricolo said:
Hi Wise Guy Bricolo,
Why don't you try this one yourselve and report back?.
And please note the post below was a joke or better said a mixture of joke and good advice to make it looking serious.......:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=333462#post333462
Ever seen a carbon composition resistor in SMD?
Do you really think I believe in rounded PCB corners and tracks with round corners??? We are not talking Giga herz here!
Re: Re: Re: Carbon Resistors in KWAK-CLOCK
Hi Jester Elso,
My Kwak Clock works, with carbon resistors.
But I didn't read your post as a joke, and now I don't find it funny at all. Just remember that when you write what we call "désinformation" in french; some people can take it seriously.
And since I have no experience with smd, I have no idea of the smd resistors composition.
Elso Kwak said:
Hi Wise Guy Bricolo,
Why don't you try this one yourselve and report back?.
And please note the post below was a joke or better said a mixture of joke and good advice to make it looking serious.......:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=333462#post333462
Ever seen a carbon composition resistor in SMD?
Do you really think I believe in rounded PCB corners and tracks with round corners??? We are not talking Giga herz here!
Hi Jester Elso,
My Kwak Clock works, with carbon resistors.
But I didn't read your post as a joke, and now I don't find it funny at all. Just remember that when you write what we call "désinformation" in french; some people can take it seriously.
And since I have no experience with smd, I have no idea of the smd resistors composition.
Rubber damping
Hi Steve,
Please see:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=301336#post301336 (second part)
baggystevo82 said:
Hi Steve,
Please see:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=301336#post301336 (second part)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Carbon Resistors in KWAK-CLOCK, Not funny?
Now build a second KWAK-CLOCK with only metalfilm resistors. Compare the sound with the first clock you have built. Do you hear any difference? Did you learn something from this experiment? BTW you did not mention carbon film or carbon composition.
See also this thread about oil filled resistors:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32995
😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱
Hi Bricolo,Bricolo said:
Now build a second KWAK-CLOCK with only metalfilm resistors. Compare the sound with the first clock you have built. Do you hear any difference? Did you learn something from this experiment? BTW you did not mention carbon film or carbon composition.
See also this thread about oil filled resistors:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32995
😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱
If he doesn't like your sense of humour.......
Hate to know what he thinks of mine.
Lighten up, guys.........[joke]
Jocko
Hate to know what he thinks of mine.
Lighten up, guys.........[joke]
Jocko
Re: Rubber damping
Hehe, very cynical! So does that mean you think it's there for insulation then?
Second that.
PS jus got bored this evening, and put a spare 2k pot in parallel with the cd loading mechanism. Its now nice and smooth and quiet 🙂 it used to rattle about and nearly throw cd's across the room before. hopefully the extra current draw won't pop anything though
Steve
Elso Kwak said:
Hehe, very cynical! So does that mean you think it's there for insulation then?
jean-paul said:
Second that.
PS jus got bored this evening, and put a spare 2k pot in parallel with the cd loading mechanism. Its now nice and smooth and quiet 🙂 it used to rattle about and nearly throw cd's across the room before. hopefully the extra current draw won't pop anything though
Steve
Re: Re: Rubber damping
you could put a series resistor instead. This way you won't have to worry about the extra current.
baggystevo82 said:
Hehe, very cynical! So does that mean you think it's there for insulation then?
Second that.
PS jus got bored this evening, and put a spare 2k pot in parallel with the cd loading mechanism. Its now nice and smooth and quiet 🙂 it used to rattle about and nearly throw cd's across the room before. hopefully the extra current draw won't pop anything though
Steve
you could put a series resistor instead. This way you won't have to worry about the extra current.
Re: Re: Rubber damping, Not Funny Again?
No I believe the rubber around the crystal is for mechanical damping NOT for electrical insulation.😎
Hi Steve,baggystevo82 said:
No I believe the rubber around the crystal is for mechanical damping NOT for electrical insulation.😎
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Carbon Resistors in KWAK-CLOCK, Not funny?
I don't have the time and the parts for a second KC.
And this isn't the problem I was talking about, I thought that this place was made to help each other, and not to make fun of them. Your jokes can be (and have been) taken seriously by other people who read the topic. I did, and it seems that even Mr Tent did (look at this post just after yours)
And I didn't mention carbon film or carbon composition because I don't know, I just asked for carbon resistors at the store.
Elso Kwak said:
Hi Bricolo,
Now build a second KWAK-CLOCK with only metalfilm resistors. Compare the sound with the first clock you have built. Do you hear any difference? Did you learn something from this experiment? BTW you did not mention carbon film or carbon composition.
See also this thread about oil filled resistors:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32995
I don't have the time and the parts for a second KC.
And this isn't the problem I was talking about, I thought that this place was made to help each other, and not to make fun of them. Your jokes can be (and have been) taken seriously by other people who read the topic. I did, and it seems that even Mr Tent did (look at this post just after yours)
And I didn't mention carbon film or carbon composition because I don't know, I just asked for carbon resistors at the store.
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