yeah toying with the idea of some stupid powerful 6550/kt88 amp...but what are you going to with that? lay waste to the countryside xD
what just have a ridiculous sheer clean power. I can see how many would like that. it's actually really useful when trying to do some firebreather/blowtorch stuff in the front end.
I appreciate all the Builder's/Modder's, players all these sites and just everyone into it really... gave me some great idea's/implemented a lot of stuff to nail a lot of the jargon I hear in my head xD so that always a plus.
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The sound engineers get all freaky when you bring out the big guitar amps and stacks, and where most gigs are going to happen in smaller venues you can mic the amp through the house PA if you need a bit more volume, big venues too.18 to 25 watt is a nice sweet range to play in, won't break the bank or your back and it's club friendly. I'd be interested in knowing what the OP has in mind regarding the product they hope to offer, and what type of customer they are marketing to.
what are you talking about? like a pair of 6v6/EL84s really wound up can do that, I still consider that quiet it can sound really good/huge though for that though... it doesn't start getting way louder/obnoxious till past that 18-25watts, just not quite like the bigger bottles/glass either.
No I like that..get something stupid loud/powerful even in a small area...it's like just F that Mic/micing things up etc haha, Overkill for sake of overkill etc haha
but I mean in larger venue's kinda have no choice but some sheer stupid amount of power/micing both.
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Getting into an area with little experience with me, micing/room's/acoustics's/speakers /beaming/directional/mixing/just altering getting that final sound etc.
That starts getting very different, depending how, I'm sure everyone likes to/want's to do it differently. An EQ you thought sounded good/start sounding bad or a lot of compression changes. Sound Open one minute/totally Squashed the next.
Trips me out, wherever you move place an amp/cabs it's just a lot different to me and it's like getting use to it all over again etc.
I could understand that though, beam/directional anyone in line with that/lots of volume their ears will bleed.
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You know when you get that killer sound though etc, feel comfortable/with it and just Rip etc haha
Realistically though....I'm happy enough as it is to be a Bedroom/House Warrior haha,
It's cool thinking about some actual Loud stuff though haha
It's cool thinking about some actual Loud stuff though haha
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Back in about 1972 I built 4 cabinets that each contained 4 X 12 inch speakers. I built a solid state "booster amp" that could pump 1200 Watts RMS into them. LOUD, yes. My motto then was "If you can't be good, be loud." Hey, it worked for Grand Funk Railroad. I got the idea to lay one cabinet on its side, stand the next one up, then lay two on their sides on top of each other. It looked like stairs to the sky, and I would climb them while playing....usually outside. You could hear this thing a mile away, and I thought I was cool.....until one of my friends told me how bad it sounded.
I let him play and I took a walk about 200 yards out from the stage. Yes, he was right. As you walked across the field where the audience would be (usually on blankets or lawn chairs) the guitar would go from bright to muddy to bright again. In the muddy zone some notes were almost missing......You know that interference thing that they teach you in high school physics class....it's real! 4 X 12 cabinets by themselves can exhibit lobeng. A wall of them can be ugly. In some closed venues full of moving people is doesn't matter since the lobes move with frequency, and get broken up by the people.
Stacking two cabinets on either side of the stage, helped, but there was still a rather obvious muddy zone in the middle about 100 yards out.
I loaned the booster out to a real rock band that used it in their PA setup for live outdoor gigs, they liked it enough to buy it. What was different? They had a pair of column speakers with maybe 6 X 10 inch speakers in a vertical line array and they ran everything EXCEPT the drums and bass guitar through it. Their bass player had an SVT with two cabinets each containing a pair of 15 inch (JBL's ?) mounted in a wedge configuration. It might have been an Ampeg cabinet but I am not sure. They put one on either side of the stage in the back. That thing would "launch" the bass out into the crowd. In the front of the audience the bass was not too loud unless you stood in front of one of the cabinets, but at 100 yards the bass was LOUD. Almost covered up the drums. In a closed hall, it was too deadly to use, the standard 8 X 10 was used instead.
We know a lot more about sound now. Everyone on stage has their own mix in their headphones so you can stand anywhere on stage, or move around. The volume levels on stage are less than in the audience, since everyone (except maybe the drummer) plays at the 20 watt level. Everything is miked and run through a PA system that is tailored to the venue.
That wall of Marshalls behind the guitar player.....they are usually all fake! For an extreme example check out Ryan Addam's "Princeton Reverb" amp. It is HUGE. The pilot light is about 4 inches in diameter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSht9HuGAW4
I let him play and I took a walk about 200 yards out from the stage. Yes, he was right. As you walked across the field where the audience would be (usually on blankets or lawn chairs) the guitar would go from bright to muddy to bright again. In the muddy zone some notes were almost missing......You know that interference thing that they teach you in high school physics class....it's real! 4 X 12 cabinets by themselves can exhibit lobeng. A wall of them can be ugly. In some closed venues full of moving people is doesn't matter since the lobes move with frequency, and get broken up by the people.
Stacking two cabinets on either side of the stage, helped, but there was still a rather obvious muddy zone in the middle about 100 yards out.
I loaned the booster out to a real rock band that used it in their PA setup for live outdoor gigs, they liked it enough to buy it. What was different? They had a pair of column speakers with maybe 6 X 10 inch speakers in a vertical line array and they ran everything EXCEPT the drums and bass guitar through it. Their bass player had an SVT with two cabinets each containing a pair of 15 inch (JBL's ?) mounted in a wedge configuration. It might have been an Ampeg cabinet but I am not sure. They put one on either side of the stage in the back. That thing would "launch" the bass out into the crowd. In the front of the audience the bass was not too loud unless you stood in front of one of the cabinets, but at 100 yards the bass was LOUD. Almost covered up the drums. In a closed hall, it was too deadly to use, the standard 8 X 10 was used instead.
We know a lot more about sound now. Everyone on stage has their own mix in their headphones so you can stand anywhere on stage, or move around. The volume levels on stage are less than in the audience, since everyone (except maybe the drummer) plays at the 20 watt level. Everything is miked and run through a PA system that is tailored to the venue.
That wall of Marshalls behind the guitar player.....they are usually all fake! For an extreme example check out Ryan Addam's "Princeton Reverb" amp. It is HUGE. The pilot light is about 4 inches in diameter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSht9HuGAW4
Hi George, I was going to mention the ''wall of fake stacks'' that's been going on for many years and will continue...throwing a mic on a half-stack and letting the soundman get a decent overall mix makes sense. I have seen a tendency for guitarists to go for a lower wattage, getting the output tubes working a bit more and get great tone. Power tube overdrive on a 100W amp on stage without an attenuator? OUCH. The people just move away from the stage to avoid getting their head taken off. Our ''outdoor'' PA rig is 4000+watts, the whole town can hear you really clear..and I used a 20W amp mic'd up. I was just as loud as every one else. Until the police showed up (they were cool and hung around for a while...) Darn city ordinances
Realistically and Sadly,
This is and end to the era. Yeah, I was going to build my own amps for a while
and built one, pretty sweet amp, loud too, heavy build to stand up to the daily grind.
However but w/o reverb at the time. Reverb is a must have. To make more than one
you have to have a good supply of parts, chassis, cabinets, speakers that will stay
consistent for a long time or you need a BIG BIG pocket book to inventory it all.
So I said screw that and just serviced and restifed amps and did a pretty good job
of it too.
But what I also learned was that musicians say the want one thing, but when
they get it, will want sometime different. Musicians say they want clean amp,
NO they don't. They want a dirty sounding amp that runs clean with reverb.
About power - You don't want to give them power the'll **** off all the
club owners and the other musicians. Seen it all the time, then they'll turn
down the volume until the guitar sucks so badly no one will get up and dance.
The power range someone stated was just about right on the money with
a 15 - 24 watt amp and a good speaker. When one of the Carter family came
into town for a gig in a medium venue sized club (up to about 2000 people standing
close and tables around the perimeter) I had an emergency service. I took their amp in
and rented them one of my Fender Deluxe Reverb amps for the gig. When finished, I brought their amp back and spoke with the guitarist. He was truly amazed and told me
Holy "Schitt" that little Deluxe [Reverb Amp] is as loud as my Super [Reverb Amp].
He was pleased, I got some follow on stuff too. : )
You can make better money repair, modifying, upgrading, refurbishing, etc if you
know what you are doing then making from scratch. You have to know where the
musicians are.
Binley, I always tried and succeeded in doing great rather than good.
It did alright too.
This is and end to the era. Yeah, I was going to build my own amps for a while
and built one, pretty sweet amp, loud too, heavy build to stand up to the daily grind.
However but w/o reverb at the time. Reverb is a must have. To make more than one
you have to have a good supply of parts, chassis, cabinets, speakers that will stay
consistent for a long time or you need a BIG BIG pocket book to inventory it all.
So I said screw that and just serviced and restifed amps and did a pretty good job
of it too.
But what I also learned was that musicians say the want one thing, but when
they get it, will want sometime different. Musicians say they want clean amp,
NO they don't. They want a dirty sounding amp that runs clean with reverb.
About power - You don't want to give them power the'll **** off all the
club owners and the other musicians. Seen it all the time, then they'll turn
down the volume until the guitar sucks so badly no one will get up and dance.
The power range someone stated was just about right on the money with
a 15 - 24 watt amp and a good speaker. When one of the Carter family came
into town for a gig in a medium venue sized club (up to about 2000 people standing
close and tables around the perimeter) I had an emergency service. I took their amp in
and rented them one of my Fender Deluxe Reverb amps for the gig. When finished, I brought their amp back and spoke with the guitarist. He was truly amazed and told me
Holy "Schitt" that little Deluxe [Reverb Amp] is as loud as my Super [Reverb Amp].
He was pleased, I got some follow on stuff too. : )
You can make better money repair, modifying, upgrading, refurbishing, etc if you
know what you are doing then making from scratch. You have to know where the
musicians are.
Binley, I always tried and succeeded in doing great rather than good.
It did alright too.
I think that's just a quirk of the camera angle or something because from further out shots the amps and lamps are normal sized. He plays with a '65 (red lamp) and a '68 (blue lamp) reissue (parallel), I believe. He's a hardcore Princeton reverb guy.
That was a great show too.
That was a great show too.
There is a Schematic Tweak feature which allows for even more adjustments, from the user guide:
"3. The electronic circuits are using a complex modeling engine that allow for high accuracy in filter and nonlinear simulations. It’s using a recognised set of of techniques to evaluate large electronic networks. It is not possible to remove or insert circuits or components within ReValver.
4, but you can edit the values of all parameters. (Some circuits in some modules may have editing disabled. The reason may be that the owner of the schematic or the 3rd party developer has requested it to be so)."
It’s using a recognised set of of techniques to evaluate large electronic networks. - Like SPICE on steroids!
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lol. I never noticed that shot. Not sure how I missed it. I've watched the entire show 2 or 3 times. Very funny.
It looks like a cardboard cutout.
It looks like a cardboard cutout.
You bet 😉
I guess he does it as a service to his fans: instead of squinting trying to see what amps he's using, now there's no doubt possible 😉
I guess he does it as a service to his fans: instead of squinting trying to see what amps he's using, now there's no doubt possible 😉
I watched an "Apple iTunes" only live concert sometime last winter that was at the roundhouse in England. It was a well done series of 30 concerts in 30 days. One of the shows was Ryan Adams. The monster amp was right behind him and the real amps were off to the side. It looked like there were tolex covered sides on it. It's probably a prop made for him by Fender.
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