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No. This place models very closely to a charitable organization, where the staff may be volunteers, and indeed may even donate to the organization.

I'm not the staff here, no way. I am a customer who uses the product, the forum, as long as I like it and there is a balance between what I get out of it and what I put in. If not, I'll take my business to another product, another forum, as every savvy customer would.

Jan
 
forum policy is really the province of Jason, you should speak to him directly for your concerns...though he consults with the mods here most of the time...
mods can only enforce rules, we do not censor, we do not edit posts unless requested by posters...

but we delete posts that are off topic, if a post violates a certain rule we delete the whole post anyway, the poster can always re-post sans the rule violating part, but as rule we do not edit nor censor posts...
 
Neil, I don't go online and post to a audio DIY forum to write my "focused thread" just for intimidating people like you.

Whoops. I thought the ideas in your post were very good and I was trying to support and add to them, not take advantage of them. If you look at post #95 in this thread, I made a similar statement in the fourth paragraph--that we need "to find ways to bring in fresh approaches from a new generation of DIY'ers". And if you look at my Audiodevelopers website, you will see that I am very much concerned about sharing knowledge and demystifying the technology so that others can enjoy this hobby.

I don't mind being called intimidating, because I have learned the most from smart, well educated people who intimidated me and encouraged me to learn and take more classes. But I hope that I am intimidating because I am a fanatic for truth and creativity and because I enjoy technical challenges and want others to share in that joy. There are a lot of people who intimidate to make themselves feel smarter at the expense of others and often mix in sarcasm as a "personal dig". That's the type of intimidation that I thought you were concerned about in your original post, and I hope I didn't come across that way...
 
People are searching for good vibrations, and it is hard to find a place where your can make really good things on this planet. During my student hollidays, i've worked as a cabinetmaker in the industry and i've made tons of toilet doors for the hotels and trains. I'm absolutely certain that my work and my energy had given huge amount of satifaction to millions of people and i will go to a kind of heaven when i die. How will you define "better" threads, how can you measure the reader pleasure ?

I meant "Better" threads in the context of development/evolution of a design or solution. We've probably been there at least one time, trying to sift through a tens of pages, maybe hundreds of pages long thread to find the relevant build information,several design solutions and BOM's until you get to a certain point, optimal BOM is maybe at post 488, best gerber files at post 364, good discussion on how why they ended up with the specific layout and design maybe two posts/page for 20 pages. Good troubleshooting by new builders getting weird results from post 537 ca every 6th post until the end of thread (another 30 pages or so).

Sometimes I see really long threads that have so much good info, but it would not be difficult to condense the information, and concentrate all the important bits into a relatively short document. Or: It would not be difficult for someone that has followed the thread closely for a little while, and have intimate knowledge of the process.

Maybe it could be baked into the 1st post, just something like:
This thread ended up making a very successful design, so to make the information available the important bits of development, knowledge and how YOU can build it yourself, has been compressed into a very handy WIKI article.
 
I meant "Better" very successful design, so to make the information available the important bits of development, knowledge and how YOU can build it yourself, has been compressed into a very handy WIKI article.

If you have the motivation and the process in mind to make a post-it, you should do it, i'm confident that many people will be interested (even if they don't say it IMHO)
But i'm often partaged between two concepts, the success (see my previous post #543 and the adaptation often called evolution (the heart of the audio DIY should be a sound field study).
 
KaffiMann said:
Sometimes I see really long threads that have so much good info, but it would not be difficult to condense the information, and concentrate all the important bits into a relatively short document. Or: It would not be difficult for someone that has followed the thread closely for a little while, and have intimate knowledge of the process.
I guess you have never done any serious technical writing? When done well, like all things done well, it looks easy; so easy that anyone could do it, will only take a few hours, no need to carefully cross-check facts and understanding, no need to ensure correct attribution, no need to check that it could not be misunderstood, no need to redraw diagrams to get the axes right, no need to redraft three times etc. etc.
 
I meant "Better" threads in the context of development/evolution of a design or solution. We've probably been there at least one time, trying to sift through a tens of pages, maybe hundreds of pages long thread to find the relevant build information,several design solutions and BOM's until you get to a certain point, optimal BOM is maybe at post 488, best gerber files at post 364, good discussion on how why they ended up with the specific layout and design maybe two posts/page for 20 pages.
The moderation team are well aware of those frustrations and put into place the "First Post Edit" some time back. That means that the OP can forever edit the first post of a thread to keep the thread up to date and create a sort of index.
vis: Fast, fun, Inexpensive OB project
Of course that's manual labor, so to speak, nothing automated or any easy tools. I don't know the new software (Xenforo) well enough yet to understand what tools it has that we can use for this very real problem.
 
forum policy is really the province of Jason, you should speak to him directly for your concerns...though he consults with the mods here most of the time...
mods can only enforce rules, we do not censor, we do not edit posts unless requested by posters...

but we delete posts that are off topic, if a post violates a certain rule we delete the whole post anyway, the poster can always re-post sans the rule violating part, but as rule we do not edit nor censor posts...

And you guys do a great job at that! Probably the best forum ever. Kudos where due.

Jan
 
I guess you have never done any serious technical writing? When done well, like all things done well, it looks easy; so easy that anyone could do it, will only take a few hours, no need to carefully cross-check facts and understanding, no need to ensure correct attribution, no need to check that it could not be misunderstood, no need to redraw diagrams to get the axes right, no need to redraft three times etc. etc.

Please, don't remind me!! 😱

Jan
 
mods can only enforce rules, we do not censor, we do not edit posts unless requested by posters...

but we delete posts that are off topic, if a post violates a certain rule we delete the whole post anyway, the poster can always re-post sans the rule violating part, but as rule we do not edit nor censor posts...

Not sure how this adds to this forum. I will discuss with the other Mods why this thread should even exist. If you don't understand that thought, then consider yourself part the problem.
 
I meant "Better" threads in the context of development/evolution of a design or solution. We've probably been there at least one time, trying to sift through a tens of pages, maybe hundreds of pages long thread to find the relevant build information,several design solutions and BOM's until you get to a certain point, optimal BOM is maybe at post 488, best gerber files at post 364, good discussion on how why they ended up with the specific layout and design maybe two posts/page for 20 pages. Good troubleshooting by new builders getting weird results from post 537 ca every 6th post until the end of thread (another 30 pages or so).

Well, it looks to me you are looking for certified/verified recipes, not knowledge. For recipes, discussion forums are not the best repository.
 
Well, it looks to me you are looking for certified/verified recipes, not knowledge.

What's wrong with that?

It does say 'DIY' and 'Projects' in the forum name.
And, there aren't many other places to find 'recipes' for good projects that are built and tested and modified, so this place usually does it for me.

For some, DIY means buying modules and connecting them together, for some it's design and SPICE simulations without building, for others it's putting together somebody else's design to make something that works. There's room for all that here, it seems.

There's even room for discussions about health, food, beautiful women, cars, photography, music and more - and none of those are remotely connected to 'DIY' and 'Projects'.

So I think the forum is pretty good at satisfying the needs of thousands of participants, as-is.
(Though I wish we had a 'Thumbs up' 'Smiley' available! 🙂 )
 
Almost every day there is a new thread or three seeking help to repair something, often solid state amps. While that seems a little off the main thrust of the forum, isn't it a good entryway to building your own?
 
perhaps there should be separate section just for repair

just like recently created for room acoustics

if people demand it, it will happen

personally I think all repair stuff should be kept separate, especially if search function is not that great, one could easily browse though that section to find similar problem to learn or get an idea for his own repair
 
Almost every day there is a new thread or three seeking help to repair something, often solid state amps. While that seems a little off the main thrust of the forum, isn't it a good entryway to building your own?
Yes, IMO. Add that to the list! 🙂
Though for me, building a tube project 'from scratch' is MUCH easier than troubleshooting a SS amp. So I wouldn't describe it as 'entryway' at all, for me.
🙂
 
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