The link is funny... 😀 Just some poor hillbilly tryin' ta make some extra beer
money....
Still , Frreeee shippin'... whoa ! 101$ +15$ S/H of good speaker.
85$ for kindling or small shelves 😀 . Damage control.
Get some boxes ..
http://flogatt.kilu.de/Hifi-Forum/Sarah%20von%20FloGatt.pdf
OS
money....
Still , Frreeee shippin'... whoa ! 101$ +15$ S/H of good speaker.
85$ for kindling or small shelves 😀 . Damage control.
Get some boxes ..
http://flogatt.kilu.de/Hifi-Forum/Sarah%20von%20FloGatt.pdf
OS
That's a joke. He is a "net" artist and his "impressions" tend to sell overpriced for good bucks!
The art of selling - YouTube
He really saves on sand paper. I get the same materials he uses here on the ocean beach every year. You can see some of his other creations. Really funny but e-pay reap-off. They are not made to sound good, you will be lucky if they "SOUND" like anything in the market... They are just a proof of concept probably with no concept at all besides simplistic RECYCLING and "value added". Damn! they might be heavy... A Work-of-Art indeed.
- Handmade Custom Speakers - Excellent Audio Quality, Real Wood, Triangular Box
- Handmade Audiophile Speakers - Reclaimed Wood, Custom Drivers, FULLY NEO
The art of selling - YouTube
These photos were pulled from the listing. And I really don't have much time to experiment. I'd like to do the very least to make them sound decent. If sealing up the enclosure would help then I can do that. What size holes?
Vocal reproduction is one of the main reasons I was looking at full-rangers, so thats good.
I'd been considering picking up a full-range horn kit from Madisound. Now I really wish I had.
I was hoping it only looked like junk.
I've heard it today, and it sucks, so I am a sucker.
15min of listening = rebuild. I'll take measurements before salvage though. The seller said they could play to 80Hz ("arguably lower"). If so, then I've never realized before how much good stuff is between 55-80Hz.
That's what sold me!
I may try both and see which I prefer. Currently, I'm a fan of my Magnepans, but a closed or bass reflex box may be a nice compliment.
Mind if I use that in my feedback?
I know a person's opinion of sound quality is relative, but this guy should know better. However, I can't leave negative feedback. I can say his product is **** IMO, but I can't say for sure he is a liar, though I'm certainly pretty sure.
Who would build this then? I know who would buy it... 😱😡
Thank you so much sir!
Yes. I don't want to waste time experimenting. Exact plans like Rick gave is what I would want to start and finish with.
I'll direct the eBay seller to this thread. Maybe he'll chime in. On his behalf, I can atleast say that he paid $35 shipping, so his return wasn't a complete raping of my wallet.
I forgot to mention that I found he left a review for the Tang Bands on PE. Notice his technical knowledge as "professional.":
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Don't despair Philimon....the audio world is full of hucksters...though many here might not admit it, most of us at one point or another have fallen for some type of hype or psycho-acoustic babble.😱
You could simply sell the drivers and recoup part of your expense. Then read some of the full-range projects here at DiyAudio...there are also a few people who design, build and sell finished FR loudspeakers here.
Or you can try and salvage what you have and build an enclosure as Richard Ellis suggested.
You got off relatively cheap on the learning curve IMO and I doubt you'll ever fall prey to a huckster like this again😉
Some designs in this thread: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/237166-help-best-enclosure.html
GM
GM
Basically, he's con artist.Con artists make money through deception. They lie, cheat and fool people.
It's for rear firing supertweeter ambience enhancer! Higher state of conciousness design 😀
Hi,
He is lying through his teeth. They will get nowhere near 80Hz.
I'd guesstimate they are about -20dB down at 80Hz and will
produce non-existent levels of bass before overloading at
xmax - due to the very serious amount of baffle loss.
Best speakers he's ever made ? Utter BS.
The bass will roll-off at 6dB/octave below 500Hz. They have
utterly no bass, no upper bass, and very poor midrange.
Everything below ~ 500Hz is an unmitigated disaster area.
rgds, sreten.
Be my guest.
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Best idea yet. My cat would love them.
Carpentry is not my strong suit, but my skills are way way better than that. I have a table saw, router with jigs and table, jigsaw, etc and I also know how to cut a piece of board square and straight. In fact, I could do better than that when I was 12 years old.
Those "enclosures" are truly disgraceful.
Hi Philimon
Ok, I'm going to go totally against the stream (as usual), and suggest that you do not immediately junk the boxes (or baffles, or whatever those things are). Try listening to them first and see what you think. Yes I agree, the baffles look weird, but I have to say, one of the first things that struck me was that the cavity behind the driver has no parallel sides. That is a plus (however small it may be). So here is my suggestion- first things first, put some carpet felt or wool on the diagonal baffle behind the driver and the top baffle (on the inside). This will cut down on cavity resonances and will improve things to start with.
Once that is done, we can move to constructing side baffles. I agree with the idea of putting on side baffles, but make them from something absorptive (like carpet felt or something like that). If you use carpet felt, cover it in speaker cloth first. Or add solid wood side-baffles, but leave a triangular opening on each of them so that the woofer chamber remains open baffle. You can put a metal grill over these openings and then put the damping material against the grill from the inside of the box. You can then experiment with different thicknesses of damping material (or even put damping material on the one side and not the other, etc, etc.).
If it was me, I'd experiment, play around with it. You've spent the money so there is not point crying about it now. So rather than fret about it, have some fun. If you do end up chucking the boxes away, you would at least have had some fun with them and learned something in the process too. Just a thought.
Enjoy,
Deon
Ok, I'm going to go totally against the stream (as usual), and suggest that you do not immediately junk the boxes (or baffles, or whatever those things are). Try listening to them first and see what you think. Yes I agree, the baffles look weird, but I have to say, one of the first things that struck me was that the cavity behind the driver has no parallel sides. That is a plus (however small it may be). So here is my suggestion- first things first, put some carpet felt or wool on the diagonal baffle behind the driver and the top baffle (on the inside). This will cut down on cavity resonances and will improve things to start with.
Once that is done, we can move to constructing side baffles. I agree with the idea of putting on side baffles, but make them from something absorptive (like carpet felt or something like that). If you use carpet felt, cover it in speaker cloth first. Or add solid wood side-baffles, but leave a triangular opening on each of them so that the woofer chamber remains open baffle. You can put a metal grill over these openings and then put the damping material against the grill from the inside of the box. You can then experiment with different thicknesses of damping material (or even put damping material on the one side and not the other, etc, etc.).
If it was me, I'd experiment, play around with it. You've spent the money so there is not point crying about it now. So rather than fret about it, have some fun. If you do end up chucking the boxes away, you would at least have had some fun with them and learned something in the process too. Just a thought.
Enjoy,
Deon
I won't argue there, but then again, you will very seldom get bass from a small driver on an open baffle. OTOH if the mid-tops are good, then simply adding a good pair of subs will be worth it (just don't buy it off eBay!). 😀.
Deon
Those are great drivers. Those are crap baffles. A friend of mine bought white van speakers for $800 and got crap and crap. After helping him build new speakers he felt the overall experience worthwhile. I'd recommend removing the drivers and discarding the baffles. Take your time to figure out what kind of cabinet you want and buy or build it. Those drivers will sound great in sealed, ported or open baffle (if used with a woofer). Even a BIB will be great so you have lots of options. The extra $100 spent is well worth the experience so don't feel bad at all. At least you didn't spend $800! In the end, for just a little more money, you will have something very worthwhile.
Zilla
Zilla
Given that the EBP of these drivers are over 100, they are most suitable for a ported alignment........stuffing them in such a tight sealed enclosure really is a waste & not worth the effort or material.
As I noted earlier a "big" ported will get some real low-end.
Like I said......Birdhouse.
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As I noted earlier a "big" ported will get some real low-end.
Like I said......Birdhouse.
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Hi,
If you really don't know the subject don't comment on it.
Conjectural procedures that are all a bad idea doesn't help.
Whatever you want to call that piece of junk, its junk.
Straight into the dustbin is best for it, and some real design.
rgds, sreten.
Now, now ....play nice.
My guess is the OP has listened to them by now ........& probably was way disappointed.
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My guess is the OP has listened to them by now ........& probably was way disappointed.
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