here you go, Lady Gaga - Just Dance:
the peak is 35-80 but that's before the house curve.
with the house curve it will be exactly at 40 hz.
the peak is 35-80 but that's before the house curve.
with the house curve it will be exactly at 40 hz.
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I doubt if any of us can hear 2 Hz.
Where can read about compressions drivers? Can someone recommend a good (cheap) one, along with a waveguide that can be bought easily?
Where can read about compressions drivers? Can someone recommend a good (cheap) one, along with a waveguide that can be bought easily?
Borat is starting to = Boring.
Sure, I can find plenty techno or even classical organ music that has super low notes, so what? I have nothing against low bass, I like it. My speakers at large and I like them that way. Small speakers don't really light my fire.
But I also know where most bass lives and it's not at 20Hz. FWIW, the open E string of a bass is 41Hz. All of its other sounds, fundamentals and harmonics are above that.
IMO too many guys focus on the extremes of the spectrum and ignore the meat of the music. I guess it gives them bragging rights or something. Bigger! Lower! Faster! Higher!
So much chest pounding. Yawn......
Sure, I can find plenty techno or even classical organ music that has super low notes, so what? I have nothing against low bass, I like it. My speakers at large and I like them that way. Small speakers don't really light my fire.
But I also know where most bass lives and it's not at 20Hz. FWIW, the open E string of a bass is 41Hz. All of its other sounds, fundamentals and harmonics are above that.
IMO too many guys focus on the extremes of the spectrum and ignore the meat of the music. I guess it gives them bragging rights or something. Bigger! Lower! Faster! Higher!
So much chest pounding. Yawn......
Markus never got notice of this post and I couldn't get the pictures here so I couldn't comment.
Probably a mistake (rumble from a mic), no mixer would deliberately put anything below 10hz on pop music, its inaudible and eats up head room. If your fighting the loudness wars ever db counts.
there was no mic. not even an A/D conversion. the analyzer was running 100% in digital domain form the music file on the same computer.
unless mp3 compression has the ability to synthesize sub-bass somehow ?
not enough sleep.
plus this thread is hopelessly boring to begin with. i am trying not to look at other threads because then i will end up wasting all of my time sitting on the internet.
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A 5 string bass goes down to about 30 Hz. I have quite a lot of music where the highest amplitude signals are below 40 Hz.
Surprisingly, it covers quite a few genres.
For an easily accessible example, go here:
Wax Audio | Mashed Media - Appropriated, Re-Mixed, Sexed-Up & Uranium Enriched
Download his "Blue Rigby" track.
No, you are seeing a common compression artifact - specifically, DC offset shift. When a signal waveform is asymmetric - where, for example, positive peaks are higher level than negative peaks - some compressors shift the whole signal envelope so that the peaks do not clip. They do this by adding a DC offset to the signal. The process is signal dependant, so the offset comes and goes according to the music. Strongly asymmetric waveforms are surprisingly common, especially on vocals.
interesting. so in your estimate the real low-end limit of that track would be 25 hz ?
Probably. Was it the original you measured, not one of the many remixes? If so, I'll check it out tomorrow.
I believe that you are absolutely correct here. There is very little music that actually is symmetric. I have seen some extreme examples or asymmetry before.
One thing we can take from all of this is no matter how great the final system, it will never fix Lady Gaga 😛
edit: unless the system fell on her!
edit: unless the system fell on her!
I do not think anyone is convinced that professional drivers are the best fit for every application.
Just like I do not think anyone is convinced that hifi drivers are the best fit for every application.
I think the discussion in this thread has already concluded two obvious points.
1. It all depends on the application required.
2. Its less about driver choices and more about the speaker design itself that makes for an incredible speaker.
Yeah, it just shows how good Marketing is and how much placebo still controls the audo world when BOSE can make millions 😉
Sorry for replies from posts 20 pages back....this thread took off with discussion. Take a 3 day break and wow, everything is missed.
Its easy for Vinyl to increase 20%......heck selling 1000 LPs instead of 500 LPs is a 100% increase 😉
Your last point is gold!! Anyone on a Audio forum is definitely in the minority and I keep that in mind every day.
Heck custom HT is a very small section of the market and I find it funny that guys on here that do not even remotely have a good HT setup are mocking it as lower SQ.
If you do not have a great HT setup how can you comment? Its the same arguement as when some on here post "If you do not have a high end setup you will not hear what I hear".....so that arguement can not go both ways?
When you have a higher end custom HT, you will understand that we do not just watch a movie. We experience it and that requires the highest quality setups and we definitely are far beyond AC-3 🙄
Most people that understand its all sound reproduction (music or audio from movies) would never even have to decide because both are all about ultimate SQ.
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