To be fair, the top cardas of yore cords I bought, are well thought out specialty items. Their shielding is far superior to any lesser cord. The termination is industrial. They are every bit worth 25 each. And building a quality system benefits from the top parts in every category. I am going to put an IEC socket in a transformer. Use the good cord to feed the distribution. Later, one for digital, one for analog.
Go litz, teflonsilver braid, for nonPOWERAMP mains cords. This makes perfect sense. I certainly wouldn't pay for it. At least not more than EBAY surplus for it. And craigs cords.
Good wall sockets. Maybe a tranny on my computer. Take an icepick to the pest chirper box that emits hyperannoying cockroach insults.
The thing that surprised me is, recently, the audio gods have smiled upon me, and I got a world class preamp, and good UK cottage industry boutique amp. For PEANUTS. But, the slightest imperfections now make music UNBEARABLE. I am remaking all my interconnects. Tightening all my RCA panel connectors. Deoxit all plugins. Cross all power and signal at right angles. Not touching if possible. Short as possible everything. Shielding everywhere. What used to not even be heard, now is scratchy, or hashey water torture. Boutique parts are NICE. Just not worth the prefleeced markup. Our systems are our wristwatches. They are our superbikes. Our Lambourweenies. Our still in box, rockum, sockum, robot EBAY find.
Wretched excess for arts sake, is fair game. Let me know when you are tired of it. I was always a hand me down kid.
Go litz, teflonsilver braid, for nonPOWERAMP mains cords. This makes perfect sense. I certainly wouldn't pay for it. At least not more than EBAY surplus for it. And craigs cords.
Good wall sockets. Maybe a tranny on my computer. Take an icepick to the pest chirper box that emits hyperannoying cockroach insults.
The thing that surprised me is, recently, the audio gods have smiled upon me, and I got a world class preamp, and good UK cottage industry boutique amp. For PEANUTS. But, the slightest imperfections now make music UNBEARABLE. I am remaking all my interconnects. Tightening all my RCA panel connectors. Deoxit all plugins. Cross all power and signal at right angles. Not touching if possible. Short as possible everything. Shielding everywhere. What used to not even be heard, now is scratchy, or hashey water torture. Boutique parts are NICE. Just not worth the prefleeced markup. Our systems are our wristwatches. They are our superbikes. Our Lambourweenies. Our still in box, rockum, sockum, robot EBAY find.
Wretched excess for arts sake, is fair game. Let me know when you are tired of it. I was always a hand me down kid.
This is nonsense, but widely believed by people with more money than knowledge.Highfido said:And building a quality system benefits from the top parts in every category.
This is nonsense, but widely believed by people with more money than knowledge.
Agreed.
Not only that, but the judgements of what constitutes top quality often have very limited connections with reality.
Why on earth would the last metre of a power line which could be hundreds of metres from the local substation transformer and dozens of kilometres from the nearest power station make the slightest difference? It won't, unless it's so thin and pulling so much power that the mains voltage drops significantly, affecting the operation of the circuitry (i.e. regulators, bias points etc.). Just goes to prove that if you repeat crap often enough on the internet it becomes true.
I will give a hand, in your lack of imagination.
Cornfields and factories or FM radio signals them do not radiate that much noise as it does the charger of your own mobile phone.
its a power cord. makes no difference. think about it, what wiring goes inside the walls to the power outlet before you plug a fancy power cord in?
Some believe in the cable-hype and others have fallen in the opposite ditch of unbelievers. Both sides are wrong; as in most cases in life there IS a thruth out there somewhere for those who seeks knowledge.
Cables will off course make a differense like other passive components. Powercables are a bit moore than just "the last meter", it is moore like the arterie that feeds the heart. A good power-supply will be a waste if it is connected by a tiny stranded "last meter". Don`t think continious power, think dynamic capasity. This goes with speakercables too, wonder if anyone comes close to understand this.
Exotic materials is a waste, plain & thick solid copper does it perfectly well. Btw; there will never be found any piece of teflon in my system.
That's the other thing about buying shiny bits used. You have the whole internet to get reviews. NOT SO, with new and improved thingies. Product buzz, makes all kinds of people jump at mere rumor. Late adopting eyecandy is wise. Even more so, top manufacturers with solid reputations in their fields.
Why no teflon?
Some believe in the cable-hype and others have fallen in the opposite ditch of unbelievers. Both sides are wrong; as in most cases in life there IS a thruth out there somewhere for those who seeks knowledge.
Cables will off course make a differense like other passive components. Powercables are a bit moore than just "the last meter", it is moore like the arterie that feeds the heart. A good power-supply will be a waste if it is connected by a tiny stranded "last meter". Don`t think continious power, think dynamic capasity. This goes with speakercables too, wonder if anyone comes close to understand this.
Exotic materials is a waste, plain & thick solid copper does it perfectly well. Btw; there will never be found any piece of teflon in my system.
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Some believe in the cable-hype and others have fallen in the opposite ditch of unbelievers. Both sides are wrong; as in most cases in life there IS a truth out there somewhere for those who seeks knowledge.
Actually, the pro-magic cables hype has become so fantastic, unrealistic and extreme that the truth is no longer in the middle.
Cables will off course make a difference like other passive components.
Which is to say that the alleged benefits are largely elusive and imaginary.
Power cables are a bit more than just "the last meter", it is more like the artery that feeds the heart.
Well that was emotional.
A good power-supply will be a waste if it is connected by a tiny stranded "last meter".
The prerequisite erroneous excluded middle argument, of course.
Don`t think continuous power, think dynamic capacity. This goes with speaker cables too, wonder if anyone comes close to understand this.
Try to set a fairly simple electrical engineering problem up as one of the great mysteries of the universe...
Exotic materials is a waste, plain & thick solid copper does it perfectly well.
The spark of truth.
Btw; there will never be found any piece of teflon in my system.
The damning of the perfectly useful.
Look, if you want to go and spend a few hundred on teflon coated silver plated OFC cable and cryogenically cooled IEC connectors for your mains cords, feel free. You may or may not notice a difference, but it's more likely to be due to unintentionally wiping and cleaning contacts in your long static bog standard plugs and sockets than changing the type of wire used. Also realise that using non-UL approved mains cables and connectors may invalidate your house contents and structure insurance if there's a fire. DO NOT (as I've seen suggested on several occasions here), use fancy speaker cables for DIY mains cords. Not only may you risk your insurance by doing that, but also your life.
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Look, if you want to go and spend a few hundred on teflon coated silver plated OFC cable and cryogenically cooled IEC connectors for your mains cords, feel free. You may or may not notice a difference, but it's more likely to be due to unintentionally wiping and cleaning contacts in your long static bog standard plugs and sockets than changing the type of wire used.
As most people do sighted, cable-swapping type comparisons of power cords, the odds are extremely high that they will perceive a difference, due to the inherent flaws in the method used to compare.
That's why there is such a good business (as there is) in selling these things!
As most people do sighted, cable-swapping type comparisons of power cords, the odds are extremely high that they will perceive a difference, due to the inherent flaws in the method used to compare.
That's why there is such a good business (as there is) in selling these things!
You better stick on your own business profession and leave to electricians the rest regarding material evaluation.
Are you using twisted pairs CAT4 at 1Mbit networks instead CAT6+ or better? because even this is a hype in your eyes?
I really don't see the point in cable (or any other component) threads. Those who argue they can't make a difference will continue to do so steadfastly. Those who hear a difference will continue to argue to the contrary. No amount of debate is going to resolve the issue or result in consensus.
The whole process is just a drawn out and tedious group affirmation exercise which is repeated on this forum ad infinitum. I guess those who have the need use the process to gain an ongoing feeling of vindication for their views.
The whole process is just a drawn out and tedious group affirmation exercise which is repeated on this forum ad infinitum. I guess those who have the need use the process to gain an ongoing feeling of vindication for their views.
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You scientific types just do not understand that the secrets of cold fusion and anti gravity are locked up in line and speaker cords. That why red cords made on the night of the full moon sound better than blue ones made on Tuesdays.
You better stick on your own business profession and leave to electricians the rest regarding material evaluation.
Why don't you tell us about your qualifications to lecture on the topic of doing scientific listening tests.
Are you using twisted pairs CAT4 at 1Mbit networks instead CAT6+ or better? because even this is a hype in your eyes?
I don't have any 1 Mbit networks at home - they are all GHz ethernet or wireless.
Btw; there will never be found any piece of teflon in my system.
Why not? Teflon has a low tangens delta. And some mechanical properties that aren't necessary for amplifier but don't hurt either.
Of course, I have far better things to doi in life than engage in vacuous affirmation seeking behaviour and puerile attempts at satire.If you do not like the thread move on.
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