Hello,
This morning i've got a Philips CD960 for just €10 from a garage sale. It was exposed to rain and i guess was not treated well at transport.
At home, the only fault was the little sluggish CD slide; after cleaning and lubrication it worked. I've played two tracks and it worked just fine. Unfortunately I carefully cleaned the dirty inside (full of dog hairs) with compressed air. I tested again and the playback suddenly stopped with "error" in the display. The cd and the drive was full of dog hairs, which i removed one by one.
After that incident, the CD wouldn't even spin up, just the laser lens is moving up and down a few times, after that the display shows "error" again. The laser works, I think, there's a red dot visible inside.
I've searched the Internet and followed the steps here:
http://getmanual.ru/indexnew.htm
audio >> service bulletins >> CD91 - CDC263
SYMPTOM: NO FUNCTION - gives error - no focus - no T.O.C.
and here:
http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/cdfaq.htm#cdsup
I'm helpless. Please help me!
PS: And yes, i've searched the forum... 🙂
This morning i've got a Philips CD960 for just €10 from a garage sale. It was exposed to rain and i guess was not treated well at transport.
At home, the only fault was the little sluggish CD slide; after cleaning and lubrication it worked. I've played two tracks and it worked just fine. Unfortunately I carefully cleaned the dirty inside (full of dog hairs) with compressed air. I tested again and the playback suddenly stopped with "error" in the display. The cd and the drive was full of dog hairs, which i removed one by one.
After that incident, the CD wouldn't even spin up, just the laser lens is moving up and down a few times, after that the display shows "error" again. The laser works, I think, there's a red dot visible inside.
I've searched the Internet and followed the steps here:
http://getmanual.ru/indexnew.htm
audio >> service bulletins >> CD91 - CDC263
SYMPTOM: NO FUNCTION - gives error - no focus - no T.O.C.
and here:
http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/cdfaq.htm#cdsup
I'm helpless. Please help me!
PS: And yes, i've searched the forum... 🙂
Hi.
As it did work until you used an air jet, it is possible that the laser needs cleaning.
Use a cotton bud with a little alcohol ( meths or gin/vodka) to carefully wipe the laser lens.
It may also be possible that you blew dirt/hair into the laser head. Carefully inspect.
Another possibility is that dirt is preventing the head from returning fully to the centre. Remove ALL traces of grease/ lubrication.
Andy
EDIT :- Also check and reseat all cables and connectors.
As it did work until you used an air jet, it is possible that the laser needs cleaning.
Use a cotton bud with a little alcohol ( meths or gin/vodka) to carefully wipe the laser lens.
It may also be possible that you blew dirt/hair into the laser head. Carefully inspect.
Another possibility is that dirt is preventing the head from returning fully to the centre. Remove ALL traces of grease/ lubrication.
Andy
EDIT :- Also check and reseat all cables and connectors.
I've tried all of this. I used a mild window cleaner. Now, after a few hours of power on, the lens appears to get in focus position and the cd spins up, the audio relais clicks. but then it aborts and the "error" message shows again.
As I figured out, it is an CDM 1 Mk 2 module. but that won't help me so far.
Maybe it is a control electronics error.
PS: I demonted the laser/prism unit to look for dirt in the inside of the optics. But I can turn the unit in the socket, so i hope that I fixed it in the right position now.
As I figured out, it is an CDM 1 Mk 2 module. but that won't help me so far.
Maybe it is a control electronics error.
PS: I demonted the laser/prism unit to look for dirt in the inside of the optics. But I can turn the unit in the socket, so i hope that I fixed it in the right position now.
As far as I "may not" edit my post, i have to double-post.
I will check all connectors. I figured out that if i pull and push the laser/mirror unit back and forth (while turned off for sure) there are certain points where the laser appears to get the focus, the disk spins up and the head seeks like mad for the TOC. The motor makes high-pitched noises, as if the controler can't find the right speed.
I will check all connectors. I figured out that if i pull and push the laser/mirror unit back and forth (while turned off for sure) there are certain points where the laser appears to get the focus, the disk spins up and the head seeks like mad for the TOC. The motor makes high-pitched noises, as if the controler can't find the right speed.
Did you remove the laser unit from the carrier ??
If so, you will have to reset the angles carefully.
I only have the service manual for the CDMs in paper format and cannot scan in at the moment.
The manuals can be obtained from CAS via EBAY or service@cas-germany.com (+49) 02065 959085
Andy
If so, you will have to reset the angles carefully.
I only have the service manual for the CDMs in paper format and cannot scan in at the moment.
The manuals can be obtained from CAS via EBAY or service@cas-germany.com (+49) 02065 959085
Andy
It is possible to loosen the cylindric laser/mirror unit, so that it can be moved in the "tube".
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
...so I need the service manual for A CDM1Mk2 or the CD960. Right?
I have the standard tools for playing around with electronics plus an oscilloscope. Is this sufficient to do the adjustment?
PS: For strange reason, one time it started playing a (well pressed, new) CD. With any other I have, once again, no chance.
At least this is the evidence that the rest of the electronics should work somewhat properly.
Thanks for your help sop far.
I have the standard tools for playing around with electronics plus an oscilloscope. Is this sufficient to do the adjustment?
PS: For strange reason, one time it started playing a (well pressed, new) CD. With any other I have, once again, no chance.
At least this is the evidence that the rest of the electronics should work somewhat properly.
Thanks for your help sop far.
Ezalor said:
Philips service manuals do not have details of the CDM. These are in individual manuals.
Andy
HI.
Send me a mail with your email address.
I will try to send you the CDM1 manual tomorrow.
Andy
Send me a mail with your email address.
I will try to send you the CDM1 manual tomorrow.
Andy
@ poynton Email is out. Thanks in advance.
@rejithcv Yeah, I was stupid to loosen the laser unit. But maybe I have shifted/moved/bended anything with the compressed air and this step was necessary.
PS: Is it ok to preventively replace the CDM caps?
@rejithcv Yeah, I was stupid to loosen the laser unit. But maybe I have shifted/moved/bended anything with the compressed air and this step was necessary.
PS: Is it ok to preventively replace the CDM caps?
poynton said:
HI.
Just to clarify, I do not have the manual to send - Sorry to those guys who emailed.
I was going to send the alignment procedure page only.
I did post the details where CDM info can be obtained. It cost me about 10euros for a complete set on CDM manuals.
Andy
Thanks, but that wasn't really what I was looking for. The tracking arm is in it's factory adjusted position, only the laser/prism module was moved. I will buy the CDM-1 manual.
PS:
I obtained a cheap CD-104, bud I haven't had a look inside. Maybe I can switch the CDM1 modules.
PS:
I obtained a cheap CD-104, bud I haven't had a look inside. Maybe I can switch the CDM1 modules.
Hi.
I do not have the manual in .pdf format.
No more emails please.
Andy
PS I posted previously where it can be obtained.
I do not have the manual in .pdf format.
No more emails please.
Andy
PS I posted previously where it can be obtained.
Well, now I'm the happy owner of an early CD104 with working CDM0 (plays Duran Duran just fine right now ) and a CD960 with broken CDM1 
Looks again like I have to fix the CDM...if I have any news you will hear from me.
Looks again like I have to fix the CDM...if I have any news you will hear from me.
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