thylantyr said:What you need now is a review of your product compared
to store bought speakers you auditioned. What the readers
might be interested in knowing is how much money do you
have to spend to get that sound if not DIY. I know the answers,
but it's good to do a final evaluation vs. store bought.
If would be cool if you can audition high end speakers
for comparison. There are snobophiles out there that
never see any value in DIY and nobody can meet or
beat store bought from famous vendors. 🙄
Your project would make a good candidate for display,
make a dedicated website for DIY'er ammunition, I can
use it on the snob forums. /rofl/
😎
All the hifi shops around here are rank naffness. About the best within a reasonable drive is Moorgate Acoustics in Sheffield. I hate going in though because when I was a student at Shef Uni I spent an inordinate amount of time auditioning gear with the threat of blowing my student loan on whatever I finally chose. After about a month of going in a couple of times a week and demoing different stuff I popped down to Richersounds and bought some £200 Mission speakers and two Paradigm PS1000 subs

Its daft really because this was 7 years ago now but I always feel guilty when I go in and see the same faces working there. I'm not sure it would be worth it though, since the best they do is the 800 series B&W and I've never really been taken aback by them, very nice build but the sound is average for the money IMO.
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ShinOBIWAN said:Its biwire though so that's why its fairly hefty.
TBH I wish I'd gone with something a little more flexible as this stuff doesn't do corners.
It's really think for no reason tho. I have biwire and it is no where even that thick. I think the 4 conductor stuff i have is about the same thickness as one lead on yours 🙂
Jase
jleaman said:
It's really think for no reason tho. I have biwire and it is no where even that thick. I think the 4 conductor stuff i have is about the same thickness as one lead on yours 🙂
Jase
I'll bet my speakers that the stuff you have sounds exactly the same too.
Its all about show with the big cables and that's the only reason I bought them. Its laughable to think they're any better than any other competant audio cable at any price.
I have to say that I was very shallow in this choice, ugh I feel dirty.
jleaman said:A pretty cable won't get ya much but a nice sounding one will 🙂..
No comment, except

All cables are jewelry, the only thing to worry about is the looks. Even the £1.99 180 strand OFC stuff from Richersounds would be fine hooked up to £100k worth of equipment and you still wouldn't be able to pass a blind test against £10k worth of Nordost Valhalla or whatever mega expensive stuff you fancy.
The differences just don't exist regardless of how creative someone can be with marketing or plain old BS.
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ShinOBIWAN said:
No comment, except
All cables are jewelry, the only thing to worry about is the looks. Even the £1.99 180 strand OFC stuff from Richersounds would be fine hooked up to £100k worth of equipment and you still wouldn't be able to pass a blind test against £10k worth of Nordost Valhalla or whatever mega expensive stuff you fancy.
The differences just don't exist regardless of how creative someone can be with marketing or plain old BS.
Yup i agree that is why i use the ones i have now. Nothing expensive and simple and clean looking. AND good sound plus wont break the wallet 🙂
jleaman said:
Yup i agree that is why i use the ones i have now. Nothing expensive and simple and clean looking. AND good sound plus wont break the wallet 🙂
Couldn't have said it better myself :spoton:
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karma said:ya down here its 20 cents a foot. but with a brown cover good for wiring the 12 volt security cams.😀
i may try it. if i ever finish the ones i have😉
I think there may be a difference between using HEAVY GUAGE Power cord power wire to speaker wire.. What you have there is a class of simple crap cable. Try finding some stuff not designed for power cords and such.
jleaman said:
I think there may be a difference between using HEAVY GUAGE Power cord power wire to speaker wire.. What you have there is a class of simple crap cable. Try finding some stuff not designed for power cords and such.
I'm not sure what karma is using but solid copper core mains cable is great(as good as anything else) if you can live with its bending properties.
Unless your shallow (like me) then its perfect for any system regardless of cost.
jleaman said:
I think there may be a difference between using HEAVY GUAGE Power cord power wire to speaker wire.. What you have there is a class of simple crap cable. Try finding some stuff not designed for power cords and such.
this is the kind of stuff i talked about here. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=948285#post948285
!!give me a brake pal!!
go play with your door bell wire.lol there now where even
🙄
jleaman said:I think there may be a difference between using HEAVY GUAGE Power cord power wire to speaker wire.. What you have there is a class of simple crap cable. Try finding some stuff not designed for power cords and such.
There was some fashion craze in England perhaps 15 years ago for using bell wire. Jimmy Hughes, perhaps, was the promoter. Never made much sense to me, but then again, I use orange Home Depot extension cord for speaker cable.
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SY said:
There was some fashion craze in England perhaps 15 years ago for using bell wire. Jimmy Hughes, perhaps, was the promoter. Never made much sense to me, but then again, I use orange Home Depot extension cord for speaker cable.
Is this where i put on my shoes and run down to home depot and go buy orange extension cord because you are ? 😀
And for karma just go away. Leave me ALONE!
SY said:
There was some fashion craze in England perhaps 15 years ago for using bell wire. Jimmy Hughes, perhaps, was the promoter. Never made much sense to me, but then again, I use orange Home Depot extension cord for speaker cable.
well not sure about the orange power cable, its leftovers from when i sold and installed levinson gear. but sure there power cable. pure copper
😉
and for you leaman no hard feelings i figured you out i even added your link back on my page.
cheers😉
heh thats about it. i was going to say your cables turned out nice.
before that all started sorry about that.
note to self dont post next to leaman when displaying his warez.
big baby😀
before that all started sorry about that.
note to self dont post next to leaman when displaying his warez.
big baby😀
How annoying is this.
Just realised that the second cab has an mistake on the paint job. If you look at the photo's you can see I went the wrong side with the masking tape:
And this was how it should have been done:
EDIT: I did a crude photo mod to roughly show the above photo with the masking error:
I'm torn between sanding it down and redoing realising that it will take a few evenings work and a good few quid more in paint or just leaving it be and live with it.
What do you reckon?
Just realised that the second cab has an mistake on the paint job. If you look at the photo's you can see I went the wrong side with the masking tape:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
And this was how it should have been done:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
EDIT: I did a crude photo mod to roughly show the above photo with the masking error:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
I'm torn between sanding it down and redoing realising that it will take a few evenings work and a good few quid more in paint or just leaving it be and live with it.
What do you reckon?
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jleaman said:Maybe this will help 🙂 i don't see the error 🙂
I guess its one of those 'Its not exactly obvious but I know its there' type errors. You know the annoying ones.
And of course it would take me until now to notice it, after I'd gone and put god only knows how many coats of laquer over it all. If I'd spotted it before that step then it could have easily fixed, unfortunately it now means flatting out and a complete redo of the basecoats, masking and clearcoats.
I shudder at the thought of all that but then again it just sticks out like a sore thumb to my eyes.
Its times like this that you just wish you had an overbearing QA guy stood behind you checking up on your work.
I've just been having a look around it and I'm going to have to redo just for the sake of my own sanity.
"If a jobs worth doing, its worth doing right." Is something I probably take a little too seriously but I know I'd spot the mistake everytime I spied the speakers in the same room.
What a waste of perfectly good time, energy and paint though.
"If a jobs worth doing, its worth doing right." Is something I probably take a little too seriously but I know I'd spot the mistake everytime I spied the speakers in the same room.
What a waste of perfectly good time, energy and paint though.
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