I have never heard a Gravesen-designes loudspeaker, but I think that they must be good. Especially the classic 3-ways. Sad that he doesn't publish xo component details any more, insted wants to sell those über expensive Jantzen coils and caps with kits.I am now settled on a 3-way ported box, not a narrow tower but classic 3 way short and wide box. Before I pull the trigger on the Scanspeak Discovery 3WC MKII kit from TG, is there any other designs of such 3-way ported boxes I should look at (even if this means upping the budget to 3,000 euro)? Reason I ask is, I would prefer do this right now, rather than end up building another system!
Some other sources for good kits in Europe, which i have never listened to either
https://heissmann-acoustics.de/en/
https://www.visaton.de/en/products/hifi-surround-kits
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/kkits.htm
https://www.hifisound.de/de/Lautsprecher-Selbstbau/Lautsprecher-Bausaetze/
https://www.oaudio.de/en/loudspeaker-diy/
Thanks Juhazi, a lot of those are not the 70's wide box format that I am seeking. Would also like to use either Scanspeak or SBAcoustics drivers too.
SBA drivers are kind of new to European builders and kit sellers... I Linked only start pages, there would be too many links for all 3-way classics !
https://sbacoustics.com/product-category/kits/
https://www.audiohobby.eu/en/5859-sb-acoustics-diy-kits
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/kit_sbacoustics_en.htm
https://www.scan-speak.dk/technical/diy/
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/kit_scanspeak_en.htm
https://www.oaudio.de/en/loudspeaker-diy/after-series/scan-speak-series/
https://sbacoustics.com/product-category/kits/
https://www.audiohobby.eu/en/5859-sb-acoustics-diy-kits
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/kit_sbacoustics_en.htm
https://www.scan-speak.dk/technical/diy/
https://www.lautsprechershop.de/hifi/kit_scanspeak_en.htm
https://www.oaudio.de/en/loudspeaker-diy/after-series/scan-speak-series/
Not many want monkey coffins anymore, they're pretty rare now. Seas makes some outstanding drivers also.Thanks Juhazi, a lot of those are not the 70's wide box format that I am seeking. Would also like to use either Scanspeak or SBAcoustics drivers too.
Also zaphaudio.com ... well known too.
Nothing bad with monkey coffins if they have golden dimension ratio to be nice for the eyes.
Nothing bad with monkey coffins if they have golden dimension ratio to be nice for the eyes.
Yes. Apparent size.They don't want monkey coffins, is that mostly due to aesthetics?
Due to my wife specifications, I need to fit the speakers under here ( I can raise the TV height somewhat). That is why I want the monkey coffins,
I've nothing against monkey coffins. In commercial speakers the engineering department is often at the mercy of the marketing department and many times upper management couldn't figure a wavelength from the frequency. They usually have about a 1/4 to 1/3rd of the cost of the speaker into building it and even shipping weight and dimensions factor heavily. So, we diy.
thanks, I know it is far from the ideal space, but will certainly tip up the front. It is a very hard surfaced space, wall opposite white wall is bout 8 ft away, the wall opposite the natural stone wall is well over 30 ft away!
Since you love woodworking, build a TV stand that fits the entire corner all the way to the molding, to get the front edge of it as wide as you can, and put the speakers under it on each side with a subwoofer in the middle. I would personally use a sealed 6" 2 way on each side, crossed to a sub in the middle at 80hz or lower. Maybe make the shelf a little longer on the stone wall side and tell the wife it was an accident after? If you can get the face wide enough you may be able to put the satellites on top at the sides of the TV. It will help quite a bit if you can work it out so that the listening height is correct. The sub will get some gain from corner loading it.thanks, I know it is far from the ideal space, but will certainly tip up the front. It is a very hard surfaced space, wall opposite white wall is bout 8 ft away, the wall opposite the natural stone wall is well over 30 ft away!
Then again, I still build speakers but am no longer married so my advice might not be the best.
No need to be sorry, it's been over 15 years and a relief.🤣🤣 - sorry to hear that and I hope you don't mind that I have seen the funny side of that last statement!!
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than to live with a psycho the rest of your life
I like to do what I want to do when I want to do it and have too many interests to give a serious relationship the time it requires.
Same here.glad to hear it. hifi is a great relief to my personal stressors in life
Edit: I like the idea of building around the TV
If you have the skills to build it, I imagine you can make a nice looking somewhat asymmetric corner unit in which the finish of stand and speakers complement each other.
FYI -- a TG classic kit for sale here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/troels-gravesen-audiotechnology-3-way-classic-kit.398763/
BTW... One aspect of TG speaker designs seems a bit contrary to all the R&D on diffraction here at DIYaudio: The physically stepped baffle for time alignment. This will result in greater diffraction compared to a flat baffle. Is that important? For a lot of folks here, yes. It is usually audible.
BTW... One aspect of TG speaker designs seems a bit contrary to all the R&D on diffraction here at DIYaudio: The physically stepped baffle for time alignment. This will result in greater diffraction compared to a flat baffle. Is that important? For a lot of folks here, yes. It is usually audible.
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