Notre Dame cathedral

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Halas my understanding is the government will choose the project as both owner of the cathedral and monney manager and not the experts, at least not the experts of academic restauration nor art history ones.... While it's not easy to avoid opinions with comitees manifest in newspapers or Internet indeed. Anyway; experts seems divided in two camps as well : evolutionists vs art conservators... The worst could be a decision made on the mix of both imho.


Now imagine the futur : in one thousand years if there is no monney or priorities change, you may have a ruin or an open structure ... a ruin. As someone said, buildings are living things and not all is builded as pyramids to last.
 
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Halas my understanding is the government will choose the project as both owner of the cathedral and monney manager and not the experts, at least not the experts of academic restauration nor art history ones.... While it's not easy to avoid opinions with comitees manifest in newspapers or Internet indeed. Anyway; experts seems divided in two camps as well : evolutionists vs art conservators... The worst could be a decision made on the mix of both imho.


Now imagine the futur : in one thousand years if there is no monney or priorities change, you may have a ruin or an open structure ... a ruin. As someone said, buildings are living things and not all is builded as pyramids to last.

I can only hope that they don't rebuild it as it was in 2018. Otherwise they will say in 1000 years: yeah, culture came to a standstill in 2019 ;-)

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... Find me Violet Le Duc:ghost:

Imagine in 1000 years two friends talking on the Moon or Mars :

"I like Notre Dame old roof and spire made from glass, their holy style was so beautifull... but what are those stupid guys that came after and swaped the genuine glass walls and glass fundations for stone... so ugly... they knew nothing about art heritage and restoration"

@Evenharmonics : more or less same period for the first stone circle but so different from pyramids... nowadays this global world of glass invasion is boring... but yeah let's restore Stonehendge with glass stones above the pilars... and in 1000 years two friends talking in the moon or mars... Btw way they were modern, I see a TV saying the first circles were from wood then they modernise it with stones... then added some others stones.... Maybe the wood version burnt and there was a comitee from experts in fur suits :scratch:

What about circle structures from Göbekli Tepe??? Archeologists are saying it is around - 8500 BC... and looks like brandnew yet but perhaps a missing "roof"! Technology transfer from Turquia towards England :worship:

Anyone know where is the oldest construction traces on Earth still discernible ? But the caves or stones with paintings I mean.
 
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Wonder what made humans want to settle there that long ago... :scratch:
At the time of occupation of the Knap of Howar, around 3500 BC, there was a rapid spread of New Stone Age cultures in Europe.

This coincided with a period of calm climate during which travel by sea and over high mountain passes encouraged northerly migration and trade and exchange of monument building technologies.
 
Think a glass roof is easy?

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And sahprise, sahprise, the magic Flex Tape repair only lasted about 6 months
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The New Stone Age (8,000 BC to 3,000 BC) was a time when the Earth's climate was warmer than in the Old Stone Age.

It is the warmer temperature which separates the Neolithic Era from the Old Stone Age.

However the word 'warm' is a relative term, since the warming began to take place around 12,000 years ago as the Earth emerged from its last great ice age.
 
Thomas de Monchaux (Architecture Critic), writing in The New Yorker:

My Instagram feed was soon full of ideas. Many of them, featuring glassy shards and shiny spikes, looked as if Superman’s Fortress of Solitude, or maybe Elsa’s icy palace from “Frozen,” had pounced onto the back of the old church. The British starchitect Norman Foster—who famously replaced war-damaged portions of the Berlin Reichstag building with a glass-and-steel dome—enthused to the Guardian that contemporary design applied to Notre-Dame could result in a “combination of the dominant old with the best of the new.”
 
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Thomas de Monchaux (Architecture Critic), writing in The New Yorker:

My Instagram feed was soon full of ideas. Many of them, featuring glassy shards and shiny spikes, looked as if Superman’s Fortress of Solitude, or maybe Elsa’s icy palace from “Frozen,” had pounced onto the back of the old church. The British starchitect Norman Foster—who famously replaced war-damaged portions of the Berlin Reichstag building with a glass-and-steel dome—enthused to the Guardian that contemporary design applied to Notre-Dame could result in a “combination of the dominant old with the best of the new.”

Has he an income to write such short arguments ? Scaring, seems culture is limited between Dysneland and Marvel, Entertainment & movies.

Glass is not so new, around one hundred years... he should have said " a combination of the best of the old with the dominant of the new (glass everywhere nowadays). Well he putted a circle on a square in Berlin, I surmise N-D should be a harder thing to honor the "old" design".
 
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Not really, I don't think there was any point, or it would be that people can mislead themselves big time.
You did get it. Being indirect can take longer that direct.

A frozen tundra can also be very calm. :cool:
Back when winter clothing technology was nonexistent, food source was scarce, and campfire was the only heat source, how do you think people migrated to those regions of the world? :scratch2:
 

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...Glass is not so new, around one hundred years...

A turning point in glass buildings would be The Crystal Palace of 1851 (so 180 years?). England was booming and wanted to show her wares, needed a big shed. Hundreds of plans were rejected. Joe Paxton had been working with greenhouses, knew that the new sheet glass and improved iron frameworks had possibility. *ENORMOUS* mostly-glass exhibit hall, on-time and way under planned budget. It was a triumph so great that when the Exhibition closed, it was moved and used for many and various shows. A fire started in 1936, spread through dry wood floors and stored materials.... but not a bad life for a low-price 6-month building. And very inspirational.

A far later interpretation is the Crystal Cathedral built for Schuller's mega-church, now being adapted for the Catholics.
 
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Big chance they followed the food or fled ennemy tribes (chase areas not shared?) ?
I'm fascinated when I see there are foot traces from Homonids or close Australopitecus something in the East of England as old as 800 000 years according the specialists ! :eek:... and also in Spain from the same period with a fire camp with animals bones. So maybe from a period where there were no glaciers yet in the north Europe yet ? Noy HomoSapiens yet (oldest datation from Homo Sapiens is from Maroc with a 200 000 years datation!