that is far enough ahead with enough govt changes in the meantime to mean nothing. It will get watered down to allow hybrids as soon as they realise that they haven't got a hope of upgrading the power grid to cope in time 🙂 (disclaimer: I know what is required)
rather optimistic timeline, methinks
what current or emerging environmentally friendly alternate "fuel" source will deliver the energy density of hydrocarbons, to which we've become more addicted than sugar and fat?
Before dislocating our shoulders patting ourselves on the back, we need to consider the full life cycle "carbon / environmental" footprint of all the resource extraction, transportation and manufacturing processes involved - including decommissioning and disposal of the obsolete technology. I mean, George Miller can only use so many of them in the next dozen or so Fury Road sequels
what current or emerging environmentally friendly alternate "fuel" source will deliver the energy density of hydrocarbons, to which we've become more addicted than sugar and fat?
Before dislocating our shoulders patting ourselves on the back, we need to consider the full life cycle "carbon / environmental" footprint of all the resource extraction, transportation and manufacturing processes involved - including decommissioning and disposal of the obsolete technology. I mean, George Miller can only use so many of them in the next dozen or so Fury Road sequels
What's the point?
Electricity generation in the UK comes from three main sources – gas, coal-fired power stations and nuclear.
So it looks like they care to get votes.
Electricity generation in the UK comes from three main sources – gas, coal-fired power stations and nuclear.
So it looks like they care to get votes.
Around 9kWh or just over of energy in a litre of petrol.
A standard Nissan Leaf has I believe a 24kWh battery with 30kWh available.
Typical household mains energy requirements for planning purposes is (I believe from memory) around 1.5kWh as an average.
It must be easy to get an average of the amount of petrol/diesel consumed in the country over several years and get ball park figures for generating and distribution capacity required.
Bills correct, they haven't a hope.
We had to have our road (part of it anyway) connected to a higher capacity supply simply because we are all electric and with night storage heaters plus other load we could pull the voltage down from 250 off load to below 217. And that's one house with a 100amp max supply. Imagine all the electric cars trying to tap into that at the same time.
A standard Nissan Leaf has I believe a 24kWh battery with 30kWh available.
Typical household mains energy requirements for planning purposes is (I believe from memory) around 1.5kWh as an average.
It must be easy to get an average of the amount of petrol/diesel consumed in the country over several years and get ball park figures for generating and distribution capacity required.
Bills correct, they haven't a hope.
We had to have our road (part of it anyway) connected to a higher capacity supply simply because we are all electric and with night storage heaters plus other load we could pull the voltage down from 250 off load to below 217. And that's one house with a 100amp max supply. Imagine all the electric cars trying to tap into that at the same time.
I`ve always wondered if the current grids can support the peak consumption of massive batteries charging in every neighbourhoodand how is this peak demand going to be satisfied, as wind and solar are unpredictable and Britain has little to do with solar anyways. Following Brexit, I would wait to see how the nuclear facilities would continue to operate. Sounds like an idea of the green haired version of Boris Johnson.
No they can't the aluminium cables under the road would melt. That is why they need smart grids!
but I have 20 years to get a S3 jag V12 and actually use it.
but I have 20 years to get a S3 jag V12 and actually use it.
Problem is, the Leaf is a vehicle for geeks eager to ride electric, but its mileage and recharge time don`t make it a true car you can rely on. Perhaps the only ones at the moment are the BMW i8 (ridicilously expensive) and the three Tesla models which run on massive batteries and would require lots of current to charge. And one day will come when these large battery packs would need to be recycled (not to mention how much emissions are being released for their production, which, following a peak in demand for el. cars, may introduce another problem).
I`m not really sue why the leap was so huge, we could have used electric cars recharged by small petrol or LPG (conversion is cheap and reliable) engine like the setup found in locomotives.
My doubt about electric vehicles, is what happen in a severe crash, shock and rollover, very common in Buenos Aires. A large spray of chemicals around a large area.
Bingo. Brownouts will become the norm.
Plus what about all the coal and oil that will have to be burned to provide the electricity? Do we ignore this?
This is the perfect example of a half baked political solution. Do the politicians understand the issue? Do they care?
Based on my experience on this side of the pond, the answer to both questions is an unequivocal and resounding no.
oh they are totally clueless and hang onto the nearest guru for advice. Cult of personality and all that.
I do remember being in california xmas 2000 and they were asking people not to put xmas lights up. Now xmas lights in mountain view when it's hotter than a british summer in winter was strange anyway, but I do know how competitive people get in the holiday season 🙂
I do remember being in california xmas 2000 and they were asking people not to put xmas lights up. Now xmas lights in mountain view when it's hotter than a british summer in winter was strange anyway, but I do know how competitive people get in the holiday season 🙂
So people turn to politicians for solutions to problems like this. If they applied logic to this question for even a moment, then they would turn to.... wait for it.....
ENGINEERS.
But that would be too much like right.
ENGINEERS.
But that would be too much like right.
WW2 Germany run its war machine on synthetic gasoline (and rolled on synthetic rubber) made right at Auschwitz, straight from coal, of which there is enough for a 200 or 300 years, so .... you might be able to run your wheeled toy on the liquid stuff .... completely independent from OPEC Countries.
And great fuel it was too. F1 used it in the mechanical injection turbo days. Maximum covalency.
I used to live on an inner city street that was a slow moving often stationary rat run. I didn't have a vehicle and the air I had to breathe was full of the fumes created by the cars of people driving to and from their homes in wealthier suburbs farther from the city centre. The wealthier the people were the more of their pollution I had to breathe.
As porsche point out, the air leaving their cars is cleaner than it went it with the catalytic radiators!
This is the most logical solution we have, until we can find a method of storage with the energy density approaching that of gasoline or diesel fuel. I'm talking weight and volume - batteries don't even come close. Hopefully some day that gap will close.
Hybrid vehicles aren't like locomotives. Hybrids are a good idea but for maximum fuel economy electric diesel can't be beat. Hybrids are only now being accepted by American consumers in significant numbers. Electric cars are virtually a novelty here, with the Tesla being the brand considered most desirable by American consumers. Hybrids drive almost like gasoline powered cars, which helps with their acceptance. Remember, Americans are still buying large quantities of humongous gas guzzling trucks and SUVs. You will have to really stick it to us before we'll resign ourselves to driving a little electric golf cart, let alone a diesel electric car. Americans don't even buy diesel cars now - a few bad apples 35 years ago (Olsmobile Diesel was unbelievably terrible) has killed that market. And I know the Peugeot had the passenger car diesel virtually perfected 35 years ago, because I drove one a few times and compared to the Olsmobile Diesel (or even the Mercedes diesels of the era) it was wonderful.
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