Definitely compressed to hell.
Using the same sound system, same settings, its just overall very poor sounding.
Might just be the head unit itself with DAB decoding.
Using the same sound system, same settings, its just overall very poor sounding.
Might just be the head unit itself with DAB decoding.
Good DAB+ car reception is opposite previous posts. Haven't had the worst of experiences myself. One would think that the designers of the system would have thought carefully about mobile use.
"Compressed to hell" Too bad, it could be so much better.
"Compressed to hell" Too bad, it could be so much better.
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Wrong. DAB used MP2. DAB+ uses HE-AAC V2.
Please let us use the right information and not outdated info of obsolete systems.
Please let us use the right information and not outdated info of obsolete systems.
I said DAB. Almost all digital radio in the UK uses DAB. Most digital radio receivers in the UK can only use DAB. My information was correct: DAB uses MP2. In the UK we are still using and planning to adopt an obsolete system, so the information is still useful.
My information is also correct. DAB is old news and DAB+ (as in the country Norway which was the topic) is the current standard. Most european countries that had DAB have switched it off as it was a failure.
Any new installation is DAB+. Transmitters are the same, it all depends on the receiver.
Any new installation is DAB+. Transmitters are the same, it all depends on the receiver.
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I suspect that some new installations in the UK may still be DAB only; those which include DAB+ will still be mainly DAB. Whether the transmitters are the same depends on exactly what you mean by transmitter; certainly the encoder will be very different. DAB is certainly not old news in the UK. This thread is not entirely about Norway.jean-paul said:
Please calm down.
Very calm here but DAB IS old news. The whole of Europe is either already shifted to DAB+, or is busy with it now or will do in the very near future. Using obsolete drawbacks against the current system as accepted by many countries might give wrong impressions. Early adopter UK will operate both DAB and DAB+ as many households have bought a DAB receiver. The majority have chosen DAB+ so we better focus on this. Many haven't even experienced old DAB as it was either not implemented or a failure.
https://www.google.nl/amp/s/media.i...and-dab-the-differences-and-its-use-in-the-uk
I mean exactly what I said: transmitters are the same ones but encoder (software) is different. DAB+ receivers receive DAB without problem. DAB receivers can not decode DAB+ signals. No DAB receiver to be found in stores, only DAB+ ones.
It is fully understandable that UK operates both. Here DAB was stillborn and considering the bad news for people when FM Will be switched off DAB was quickly abandoned as it was already outdated when we started with it.
https://www.google.nl/amp/s/media.i...and-dab-the-differences-and-its-use-in-the-uk
I mean exactly what I said: transmitters are the same ones but encoder (software) is different. DAB+ receivers receive DAB without problem. DAB receivers can not decode DAB+ signals. No DAB receiver to be found in stores, only DAB+ ones.
It is fully understandable that UK operates both. Here DAB was stillborn and considering the bad news for people when FM Will be switched off DAB was quickly abandoned as it was already outdated when we started with it.
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Older technologies not necessarily are worse than newer ones or vice versa. I'm still using AMD486's running DOS 7.10 and they are very useful for me. Here there are still many tube enthusiasts and is a technology with near a century of oldness.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Different subject as implementation of DAB+ is a one way direction. If it will be rolled out in your area you just have to choose either to buy a receiver or not. For instance Norway switches to DAB+ and all car owners can throw away their high end Alpine FM car radio's as FM will be switched off.
If you do you comply with the standard you are free to build a receiver with tubes 😀 This is not a technique like FM that is analog and started with tubes and changed to transistors and later opamps. This is new and any receiver must comply or the reward is silence. The trouble is that the old version DAB was one way direction and DAB+ is too so older receivers became obsolete when the new version DAB+ came. Many second hand DAB tuners for sale here 🙂
A bent analogy would be if you MUST adapt to Windows 10 with your 486. When there is no more FM signal even the best FM tuner will be a door stopper.
If you do you comply with the standard you are free to build a receiver with tubes 😀 This is not a technique like FM that is analog and started with tubes and changed to transistors and later opamps. This is new and any receiver must comply or the reward is silence. The trouble is that the old version DAB was one way direction and DAB+ is too so older receivers became obsolete when the new version DAB+ came. Many second hand DAB tuners for sale here 🙂
A bent analogy would be if you MUST adapt to Windows 10 with your 486. When there is no more FM signal even the best FM tuner will be a door stopper.
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COFDM: J.H. Stott The how and why of COFDM
Ironically, at least in North America the magic sauce in satellite radio is the wide use of terrestrial repeaters.
I got an add-on module from Alpine that connected to my Alpine multimedia receiver.
Funny enough, the Dab module has to be identified to the head unit as a TV receiver for the controls to work...
Johan-Kr
A very difficult task. It took to me about a month to take the 7.10 working as I want. I don't imagine W10. Puaj....
It was meant metaphorically. FM is dead so FM car radio's wont receive FM anymore so if one wants to receive radio one has to undertake action. It would be interesting to know how many people have bought adapters and how many bought completely new DAB+ car radio's. Not the best experiences with adapters here. Depends on brand but they're not too cheap as well.
More interesting : how is DAB+ received by the public and how is reception countrywide ?
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