Nelson,
I would like to know is there any work in progress for stereo version of Xa.5 amplifiers?
I would like to know is there any work in progress for stereo version of Xa.5 amplifiers?
The XA30.5 is shipping. There are no other stereo XA
amplifiers planned at this time. We also will be releasing
an integrated amplifier in a matter of weeks.
😎
amplifiers planned at this time. We also will be releasing
an integrated amplifier in a matter of weeks.
😎
is that means that old 😱 and out to date sounding 😱 xa series amp schematic will be published to DIY audio comunity?
😎


Thanks for info. But I wish there would be something more powerful , at least 100 watt 8ohm. My current amp (x250.5) may produce better figures in Class A watts than XA30.5.
thanks any way..
mert
thanks any way..
mert
i think that starting from that....the design of the xa100.5 will be developed from the super experted guys here ....along the way
😎
😎
elviukai said:is that means that old 😱 and out to date sounding 😱 xa series amp schematic will be published to DIY audio comunity?😎
![]()
Not immediately.
😎
Nelson Pass said:
Not immediately.
😎
is that means painful and longlife tips? one after other?


a 2years has passed, i counted every second 🙄
Mr. Nelson I rebuilding my monoblocks with much more nicer apearance , this could be chance to change some values to match original xa which is old, outdated, and dicosntinued long time ago.. 😱 😱 😱
Please 🙂 I will be good until chrismas, will donate speakers drivers to diyaudio comunity, please
🙂
Mr. Nelson I rebuilding my monoblocks with much more nicer apearance , this could be chance to change some values to match original xa which is old, outdated, and dicosntinued long time ago.. 😱 😱 😱
Please 🙂 I will be good until chrismas, will donate speakers drivers to diyaudio comunity, please





🙂
Attachments
I have written elsewhere that it is simply way too costly for Pass
Labs to publish schematics for DIY use at this time, and if we don't
take care of the business, the business will not support DIY efforts
at all.
Both Pass Labs and First Watt depend on dealers and distributors for
sales, and these will not support products that they perceive as
competing with DIY versions of the same thing. Publishing the
schematics is treated as an announcement that the property is free
for commercial cloning, killing the perceived value of the originals.
It's too bad, but we don't have a fix for it. The best we can do is
hold our commercial IP private while simultaneously offering DIY
projects that don't directly correlate to product.
Some DIYers may not be as interested in these because they think
of them as leftovers or cast-offs, which is not the case. We have a
surfeit of really good designs, and we can only commercialize a
fraction of them.
Others are attracted to build clones of successful / expensive
commercial product for the bragging rights - "Yes, this would sell for
$40,000, but I built it myself for $200!"
Both types of DIYers will miss out on the really cool stuff coming up.
😎
Labs to publish schematics for DIY use at this time, and if we don't
take care of the business, the business will not support DIY efforts
at all.
Both Pass Labs and First Watt depend on dealers and distributors for
sales, and these will not support products that they perceive as
competing with DIY versions of the same thing. Publishing the
schematics is treated as an announcement that the property is free
for commercial cloning, killing the perceived value of the originals.
It's too bad, but we don't have a fix for it. The best we can do is
hold our commercial IP private while simultaneously offering DIY
projects that don't directly correlate to product.
Some DIYers may not be as interested in these because they think
of them as leftovers or cast-offs, which is not the case. We have a
surfeit of really good designs, and we can only commercialize a
fraction of them.
Others are attracted to build clones of successful / expensive
commercial product for the bragging rights - "Yes, this would sell for
$40,000, but I built it myself for $200!"
Both types of DIYers will miss out on the really cool stuff coming up.
😎
Nelson Pass said:
We have a surfeit of really good designs, and we can only commercialize a
fraction of them.
😎
i do agree that if you post schematics of your commercial top end audio gears they would definitely loose the intrinsic value by being use as clones and probably turning out as a better product than the commercial since the Dyiers don't have to deal with business and stuff.
I found interesting the above statement.
My question is: why can you ONLY commercialize a FRACTION of them?
Is it because your policy is to not commercialize too many models and thus you choose among your best options or what?
The Pass website currently lists ten different power amplifier models (not to mention preamps and the Firstwatt stuff). This is far more then every other high end audio company does. What do you think how many models a small company like Pass can handle, build and, much more important, sell?
i don't know....but... the more you have ...and the more you sell i guess!
anyways i don't know what's all involved on the audio market though....so....
anyways i don't know what's all involved on the audio market though....so....
Originally posted by Stefanoo My question is: why
can you ONLY commercialize a FRACTION of them? Is it because
your policy is to not commercialize too many models and thus you
choose among your best options or what?
Originally posted by HBarske The Pass website
currently lists ten different power amplifier models (not to
mention preamps and the Firstwatt stuff). This is far more then every
other high end audio company does. What do you think how many
models a small company like Pass can handle, build and, much more
important, sell?
I think that your are missing the central issue, which is that
successful companies need to have a focus in their products, a
central theme that is consistent, otherwise the market gets confused
as to who you are.
Pass Labs may have 10 different amplifiers, but they share a central
design concept, SuperSymmetry, and consistently use the same
topology and part types, and the variations revolve around trade-offs
between cost, power and sonic subtlety.
Our market is pretty conservative, and so are we. We consistently
choose evolution over revolution.
In contrast, First Watt can do anything it wants, which is why it was
created. That too is changing, as the mainstream market slowly
discovers the charms of little high end amplifiers.
😎
Thank you Mr.Pass for explaining the philosophy and spirit of PASS Labs and First Watt. They approaches are subtley different but the convergence can be seen.
We should be happy that till the convergence is complete, atleast First Watt diy offerings will continue simultaneous with commercial ones.
Thanks for your generosity.
We should be happy that till the convergence is complete, atleast First Watt diy offerings will continue simultaneous with commercial ones.
Thanks for your generosity.
Pass Labs
I too would like to Thanks for your generosity an Help to all diy,ners Mr Pass, i frist spoke with you in the 80s,an you allways help,ed
I too would like to Thanks for your generosity an Help to all diy,ners Mr Pass, i frist spoke with you in the 80s,an you allways help,ed
Samuel Jayaraj said:We should be happy that till the convergence is complete, atleast First Watt diy offerings will continue simultaneous with commercial ones.
Then you will be happy that the F6 coming up will be DIY.
😎
Nelson Pass said:
Then you will be happy that the F6 coming up will be DIY.
😎
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😀 😀 😀 😎 😎 😎
Great news Mr. Nelson 🙂 you may surprise but not all diyers are skimmy and want small compact designs, some of them (including me) are enought brave(read -silly) to took challenge to build multi monsters with at least 150-200W heaters and 48 fets in output.
they have very good sinergy with 95-97db/w/m multi drivers speakers
I believe/ and will pray that f6 will be biiiig and angry amp 🙂
Thanks again for everything 🙂


I believe/ and will pray that f6 will be biiiig and angry amp 🙂
Thanks again for everything 🙂
- Status
- Not open for further replies.
- Home
- Amplifiers
- Pass Labs
- New xa.5 series amps