Sorry, I can now see that my above post was pretty rude. From what's been posted here and on his website, it looked to me as though other companies offered better deals on dedicated hosting. Could you post the details? I'd be interested in seeing the advantages of his hosting plan.
At another time but for now, back on topic please. I will consider the individual merits of the options available to us in a few days time as soon as the details of a few of the offers are finalized. I'm also working heavily on coding the beg-a-thon so I can get it up tomorrow (before new year) as promised. Now please, back to the topic at hand... finding diyaudio.com a new server! 😉
Some interesting links (have a look at the last one!)
http://www.terrabytehosting.com/
http://www.voxtreme.com/
http://www.ace-host.net/special.html
http://www.terrabytehosting.com/
http://www.voxtreme.com/
http://www.ace-host.net/special.html
I liked the idea of a few (stable home) boxes around the world.
This is what I have to offer:
50gb/7 days
100Mbit
dual athlon mp 1600+
1,5GB
SCSI
This is what I have to offer:
50gb/7 days
100Mbit
dual athlon mp 1600+
1,5GB
SCSI
www.look.ca
Has pretty cheap web-hosting with business class service. The specifications you posted would be on the order of $150 U.S./Month with a reasonably priced upgrade path as the site grew.
I will throw in my hat for paying for a membership. If that happens, perhaps those with university email accounts (i.e. students), should be free. I have no problem with a tiered cost structure, i.e. those living in economically advantaged countries paying a little more.
Having advertisements does not bother me if done in a non-intrusive fashion, i.e. NO POP UPS!!!! Having some adds along the bottom or top of the screen is okay. I would not mind hearing about specials from some of the on-line DIY sites. I would think that the amount of money required is not so high that you can't be picky in the advertisers and methods.
GREAT SITE!
Has pretty cheap web-hosting with business class service. The specifications you posted would be on the order of $150 U.S./Month with a reasonably priced upgrade path as the site grew.
I will throw in my hat for paying for a membership. If that happens, perhaps those with university email accounts (i.e. students), should be free. I have no problem with a tiered cost structure, i.e. those living in economically advantaged countries paying a little more.
Having advertisements does not bother me if done in a non-intrusive fashion, i.e. NO POP UPS!!!! Having some adds along the bottom or top of the screen is okay. I would not mind hearing about specials from some of the on-line DIY sites. I would think that the amount of money required is not so high that you can't be picky in the advertisers and methods.
GREAT SITE!
I host with these guys
http://www.superbservers.net
These guys rock. For 99$/month on a 1-year plan you get a Celeron 2.4ghz, 500gb transfer, 80 gig hd, 512mb ram running your choice of RedHat or FreeBSD.
I've been hosting all sorts of things on these little wonders and they're absolutely fantastic. Heck we even have a couple of xxx sites trying to make a buck, and there's never a hitch.
If we were to go the pay-per-host way, then I think they would be the best choice. It's hard to find anything cheaper with those specs.
Best of all they're located in Canada =)
How many regular users are there on the site ? Think 1200$ a year, divided by the users.. ideally I think under 5$ would be the no-brainer point, where people will gladly pay the membership dues without guilt.
http://www.superbservers.net
These guys rock. For 99$/month on a 1-year plan you get a Celeron 2.4ghz, 500gb transfer, 80 gig hd, 512mb ram running your choice of RedHat or FreeBSD.
I've been hosting all sorts of things on these little wonders and they're absolutely fantastic. Heck we even have a couple of xxx sites trying to make a buck, and there's never a hitch.
If we were to go the pay-per-host way, then I think they would be the best choice. It's hard to find anything cheaper with those specs.
Best of all they're located in Canada =)
How many regular users are there on the site ? Think 1200$ a year, divided by the users.. ideally I think under 5$ would be the no-brainer point, where people will gladly pay the membership dues without guilt.
I noticed that Superb servers does not list MySQL support. Did they just forget to list that, or do they not offer it?
I believe that sponsors are the best way to go to raise funds. They could get a small clickable logo to their home page.
The DIY community is always recommending this product or that product. These manufacturers and sellers of these products benefit from these recommendations and would possibly be more than glad to help.
Contact all the companies such as Peerless, Vifa, Parts Express, etc. and I'll be you could easily raise $300-$400+ per month. Must be 20-30 companies to draw from.
I'll bet one of the members has, or knows someone who has, fund raising experience that could be brought to bear.
The DIY community is always recommending this product or that product. These manufacturers and sellers of these products benefit from these recommendations and would possibly be more than glad to help.
Contact all the companies such as Peerless, Vifa, Parts Express, etc. and I'll be you could easily raise $300-$400+ per month. Must be 20-30 companies to draw from.
I'll bet one of the members has, or knows someone who has, fund raising experience that could be brought to bear.
As long as you don't sell user informations, there's no problem with advertising banners (banners, not popups)
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Joined 2002
I agree with bill i think that we could get our server paid for from all the brands that he mentioned maybe nelson pass ( pass labs ) would help out also. ?
Hi, I run audiocircle.com, so maybe my experience there might be useful. On the hosting, we use Hurricane Electric (http://www.he.net) and I've found the service to be very good. We're currently paying US$60 per month for 60 Gig traffic allowance, of which we are using 35-40. (Ahem, I think we could certainly do some optimization there, given you guys are only using 30!!). While I understand the urge to have a dedicated server, the limitations of a virtual hosting account haven't been an issue.
On the funding, we also just had a "beg-a-thon" and it was very successful. I added Paypal buttons, it's quite straightforward and makes it easy for people to donate 20 bucks or whatever. While the suggestions of banner ads, auctions, t-shirts etc are all great I don't think people realize how much work is required to implement (and/or manage) this stuff.
Hope this helps, please get in touch direct if more specific information is needed 🙂
JohnR
On the funding, we also just had a "beg-a-thon" and it was very successful. I added Paypal buttons, it's quite straightforward and makes it easy for people to donate 20 bucks or whatever. While the suggestions of banner ads, auctions, t-shirts etc are all great I don't think people realize how much work is required to implement (and/or manage) this stuff.
Hope this helps, please get in touch direct if more specific information is needed 🙂
JohnR
Hi guys,
Great to see the offers come in and thanks AF for co-ordinating this. No news is good news as far as the current hosting goes. Not sure how long we have left here but we will get notice before the server is retired from duty. I'm not going OS till early Feb so we still have a few works to sort something out.
Jason
Great to see the offers come in and thanks AF for co-ordinating this. No news is good news as far as the current hosting goes. Not sure how long we have left here but we will get notice before the server is retired from duty. I'm not going OS till early Feb so we still have a few works to sort something out.
Jason
I do have an eBase 1u rack server I currently don't use...
dual P3 1GHZ
1GB ram
30 GB mirrored, hotswap
3com 100MBit ethernet
If necessary I can add another 1GB ram
Somebody else needs to configure the box, I don't know enough about linux to secure it.
If somebody has the capacity but not the server then we could join forces.
A 500km radius from the center of Holland would be acceptable for me.
dual P3 1GHZ
1GB ram
30 GB mirrored, hotswap
3com 100MBit ethernet
If necessary I can add another 1GB ram
Somebody else needs to configure the box, I don't know enough about linux to secure it.
If somebody has the capacity but not the server then we could join forces.
A 500km radius from the center of Holland would be acceptable for me.
Since the images/attachments appear to have the biggest part in the traffic, this might be an option to keep it free:
Several ppl on this list probably do have (adsl) connections with fixed ip's.
If it is possible to manage dns, you can add dns entries so that i.e. www12.diyaudio.com would point to my ip.
We then replicate the images/attachments to these servers.
When the main server now generates a page it can use an algorhytm (i.e. round robin) which is used to supply the images.
This will remove a lot of traffic from the main server, at the cost of a little added work and management.
Several ppl on this list probably do have (adsl) connections with fixed ip's.
If it is possible to manage dns, you can add dns entries so that i.e. www12.diyaudio.com would point to my ip.
We then replicate the images/attachments to these servers.
When the main server now generates a page it can use an algorhytm (i.e. round robin) which is used to supply the images.
This will remove a lot of traffic from the main server, at the cost of a little added work and management.
squadra said:
This is essentially what i'm doing with my site to keep my traffic costs way down.
dave
AudioFreak said:
Dan,
If you can get a box but need money for the hosting, I'll donate 50 $US.
Jan Didden
If you were to do the round-robin thing, which is kidn of what i suggested, i can host a FreeBSD 5.2 box with Athlon XP 1800+, 256mb, 40gb HD, unlimited transfer on 10mbit line 🙂
I think that though, it should be done with more than just images... all of the php too, and have a nice central database on a virtual host though... see this imo would be better, because you aren't throwing around html... or alot of it, just mysql queries, which are usually small... could be sizable, but not as big as the HTML w/ images etc...
And jsut for the sake of argument, i dont think we should make a monthly/yearly even one-time payment, most people dont even have the ability to do that! (As i'm not old enought to have a credit card, this of course brings issues), but i know most people would do a one or two time donation via paypal or something... I personally would throw at least 20 bucks in or something if you guys do a beg-a-thon... this site is indispensable to me and teaches me many new things... but making a required fee just seems like the wrong thing to stop knowledge being presented to those who need it most 🙄 ... also... let me suggest that we could do this if you donate 20bucks you get a lifetime diyaudio.com email account... pop3/smtp with webmail via squirrelmail... vpopmail/qmail/vqadmin would make an ideal easy setup for you guys [that bandwidth would be tiny to offer something such for 20 bucks one time 😉]
Lets crunch some numbers...
8,620 Members
1% of 8,620 is 86 people...
86 * $20USD = 1720
This means that if one percent of our members donate 20 bucks, we have enough money for...
11 months of $150 month colocation...
or
33 months of $50 month virtual serving...
Thats pretty sizable... and i know more than 1% of the board would donate (or i should hope =D)
So the ideal architecture i'd check out is this...
Central virtual hosting with public accessable mysql server locked down w/ password etc... you have to do this to enable other servers to connect to it...
Multiple companies/home-users with fast connections' dedicated bxoes from those who can provide them as satelliets...
www.diyaudio.com points to the central server... round robins to one of the others (www0.* -> wwwN.*) and it also checks to see which ones are up and down to stop broken links! (PHP is awesome 🙂)...
wwwN.* hosts PHP ... PHP contacts central server with mysql queries
wwwN.* - each are from a different geographical area.. East/West/Central USA //Europe/Germany/Australia/etc...
imagehost.* - one of these servers is the image host.... includes a interface to login to via username/pass for board to post images.. strictly for diyaudio... people then link to that server their images...
Just my thoughts! 🙂
I think that though, it should be done with more than just images... all of the php too, and have a nice central database on a virtual host though... see this imo would be better, because you aren't throwing around html... or alot of it, just mysql queries, which are usually small... could be sizable, but not as big as the HTML w/ images etc...
And jsut for the sake of argument, i dont think we should make a monthly/yearly even one-time payment, most people dont even have the ability to do that! (As i'm not old enought to have a credit card, this of course brings issues), but i know most people would do a one or two time donation via paypal or something... I personally would throw at least 20 bucks in or something if you guys do a beg-a-thon... this site is indispensable to me and teaches me many new things... but making a required fee just seems like the wrong thing to stop knowledge being presented to those who need it most 🙄 ... also... let me suggest that we could do this if you donate 20bucks you get a lifetime diyaudio.com email account... pop3/smtp with webmail via squirrelmail... vpopmail/qmail/vqadmin would make an ideal easy setup for you guys [that bandwidth would be tiny to offer something such for 20 bucks one time 😉]
Lets crunch some numbers...
8,620 Members
1% of 8,620 is 86 people...
86 * $20USD = 1720
This means that if one percent of our members donate 20 bucks, we have enough money for...
11 months of $150 month colocation...
or
33 months of $50 month virtual serving...
Thats pretty sizable... and i know more than 1% of the board would donate (or i should hope =D)
So the ideal architecture i'd check out is this...
Central virtual hosting with public accessable mysql server locked down w/ password etc... you have to do this to enable other servers to connect to it...
Multiple companies/home-users with fast connections' dedicated bxoes from those who can provide them as satelliets...
www.diyaudio.com points to the central server... round robins to one of the others (www0.* -> wwwN.*) and it also checks to see which ones are up and down to stop broken links! (PHP is awesome 🙂)...
wwwN.* hosts PHP ... PHP contacts central server with mysql queries
wwwN.* - each are from a different geographical area.. East/West/Central USA //Europe/Germany/Australia/etc...
imagehost.* - one of these servers is the image host.... includes a interface to login to via username/pass for board to post images.. strictly for diyaudio... people then link to that server their images...
Just my thoughts! 🙂
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