New Module by Lars Clausen

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Regarding your method, this will work only at very low frequencies, with the sensor placed close to the driver. The sensor can be any cheap electret microphone. Servo controlled subwoofers have this implemented in case the servo goes out of control.

Uh? 😱 😱 😱

I think you did not pick up on my humor, that was completely and utterly comprised of random thoughts and does not in any way constitute a suggestion as to how this works and meant to be funny, ie. it was a joke 😀

Best regards,

Sander Sassen
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com
 
SSassen said:


Uh? 😱 😱 😱

I think you did not pick up on my humor, that was completely and utterly comprised of random thoughts and does not in any way constitute a suggestion as to how this works and meant to be funny, ie. it was a joke 😀

Best regards,

Sander Sassen
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com
A good one...
Anyway, this method exists in real life, you will not like the sound of a subwoofer with 1000W or more when the servo sensor breaks.
 
... is this module the "new UCD" around here?

Well, from what I understand by reading the majority of the posts this has been a quest to get a few samples of Lars' latest up and running. We've seen odd bits and parts fly and have had some actual fireworks as well, but I have yet to see an actual transcript of someone getting a production module up and running.

In the meanwhile this thread has turned into a discussion about how Lars choses to describe some of the new features of his modules. So yes, it is 700 replies, whether it is 700 worthwhile replies is up for discussion, I for one would not qualify my own posts (but for an odd few) in this thread to really be on-topic or offering any new insights into Lars' latest.

Nevertheless I'm waiting with eager anticipation to see and hear all about these new modules, despite the fact that the initial impression I got here is a bit of a dissapointment to me, but that's just me, your mileage may vary.

Does that answer your question?

Best regards,

Sander Sassen
Square peg round hole evangalist
 
Sander: I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But i choose the high road, and LOL. Your Photoshop with Paris Hilton, is simply great! Only problem is, the girl who normally checks these modules with a screwdriver is even more beautiful than Paris. But happens to not live in Beverly Hills, and enherit 10000 Million $. And furthermore she is a brilliant technician!

The talk about 'seismic sensors' has been 100% right on - correctly picked up by soongsc. By using the internal impedance of some components, the voltage jitter can be detected, without current measuring resistors, and from that overload situations can be safely detected. Kind of like earth jitters before an earthquake. No BS about that.

Nano Alignment is also real, and simply (as soongsc also precisly pointed out) the fact that dead time distortion is cancelled by aligning the PWM pulses with a precision of 1 nano second. (And sometimes even less than that). So as you can see that also is no empty marketing BS.

Don't panic Sander! 🙂
 
Lars Clausen said:
By using the internal impedance of some components, the voltage jitter can be detected, without current measuring resistors, and from that overload situations can be safely detected. Kind of like earth jitters before an earthquake. No BS about that.

Nano Alignment is also real, and simply (as soongsc also precisly pointed out) the fact that dead time distortion is cancelled by aligning the PWM pulses with a precision of 1 nano second. (And sometimes even less than that). So as you can see that also is no empty marketing BS.

Don't panic Sander! 🙂

Exceptional marketing ********. Especially the "precision of 1 ns" crap.
 
Only problem is, the girl who normally checks these modules with a screwdriver is even more beautiful than Paris. But happens to not live in Beverly Hills, and enherit 10000 Million $. And furthermore she is a brilliant technician!

I'm not going to dispute any of this but.... really, give her a scope to use instead of a screwdriver and alot of the kinds of problems I've had will be avoided 🙄

BTW I found pics with Paris holding a probe instead but it wasn't appropriate for the forum.
 
Lars Clausen said:

KeithC: Why would you say that?


Because the statement doesn't explain anything - it's just a nice sounding noise - i.e. marketing bs.

Are you saying that the pulses are clocked (as per cpu control), and that your module has the ability to clock accurately at a rate in excess of 1GHz (probably more like 2-3GHz to allow for rise & fall stabilisation) across a pcb? Or that you are using the world's fastest flip-flop? Or what?

One things for sure, the Atmel device ain't fast enough to implement either voltage jitter or nano alignment.

Sorry if this sounds aggressive, I have a compulsive need to understand issues in the digital domain.

Regards,
Keith
 
KeithC said:



Because the statement doesn't explain anything - it's just a nice sounding noise - i.e. marketing bs.

Are you saying that the pulses are clocked (as per cpu control), and that your module has the ability to clock accurately at a rate in excess of 1GHz (probably more like 2-3GHz to allow for rise & fall stabilisation) across a pcb? Or that you are using the world's fastest flip-flop? Or what?

One things for sure, the Atmel device ain't fast enough to implement either voltage jitter or nano alignment.

Sorry if this sounds aggressive, I have a compulsive need to understand issues in the digital domain.

Regards,
Keith


I never claimed these functions had anything to do with the Atmel device, that assumption is purely on your part. The Atmel is only (as can be seen on the website) responsible for the safety system. The Voltage Jitter is detected by a sensor, and the signal is subsequently processed by the Atmel microprocessor.

next: I feel you are fishing for the schematics, but at this point i am not ready to let my competitors who might read this thread, see this feature. Sorry ...
 
What is wrong to wire a post-filter feedback? I did this this 10 years ago. I am sorry, 13, sharp.

Nothing, frankly I don't know why people still use pre-filter feedback, but Lars seems dead set against post-filter feedback for some reason. His explanations as to why fall as short as any insights he's been giving about all the fancy new features these modules are said to have, could this be the 'new' bit in newclassd, just marketing, no real innovations? Sounds a lot like NuForce to me, or rather NoForce, or NuFarce, you name it 🙂

Best regards,

Sander Sassen
Simulate, build, then stimulate
 
A little friendly joking around is OK but, "do you know what a schematic is?" is not going to advance the conversation at all.

I'm sure he's got one, I'm sure he's not about to share it.


Keith, "nano alignment" being marketing speak etc... you really only need that kind of resolution on your test instrument in order to say it's been nano aligned, right?
 
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