No, I don't think you're missing anything. You're just ignoring it.Lars Clausen said:
Chris has been abundantly factual, nice and friendly. After the facts, namely DOA, wrong parts and poor implementation of the prototype you sent him, he has gone out of his way to remain positive about the whole thing!!! You've been nice about it as well up to a certain point in time where you flip sides like a leaf in the wind: Sander's post sums it up perfectly. Instead of your reply below the belt you should have thanked Chris for all his efforts of fixing the modules (mods and improvements aside, there were even faults in there that couldn't have been caused by either shipping but most importantly not by Chris' work on the modules contrary to a post of yours) and apologize to him for insinuating he has not been 'independent'. So I concur completely with the sentence 'I think this is the rudest and most shortsighted comment you could've made regarding Chris' comments.'Lars Clausen said:
I can't imagin anyone not understanding how blatantly rude that was.
I think we're way past that stage already. Apart from a lot of discussion on testing methods, the exchange of mud on several irrelevant 'topics' and an obvious 'taking of sides' by several 'interested readers', there really isn't any tech info at all to speak of... That is if you don't count the description of Chris' modification which apply to just about all amps and can be found in other threads as well for the reader who want to learn.BWRX said:
At least there was some humor in the last few pages, albeit with a nasty aftertaste AFAIC.
Hans.
Ok, thanks Hans.
I for one am most interested to see more user comments regarding these modules, I 'm sure it'll be a good show.
I plan on posting some RightMark graphs here of NCD Vs UcD, Lars wanted to "take care" of all the graphs himself but...... I think it'll be interesting..
Back on topic, let the chips fall where they may. No more Mr. political Lars, you got the real me now buddy, as you wished.
I for one am most interested to see more user comments regarding these modules, I 'm sure it'll be a good show.
I plan on posting some RightMark graphs here of NCD Vs UcD, Lars wanted to "take care" of all the graphs himself but...... I think it'll be interesting..
Back on topic, let the chips fall where they may. No more Mr. political Lars, you got the real me now buddy, as you wished.
Hi Anzgar,
Would you be so kind as to inform us all if Lars is still using 6.3V 68uF caps to bypass the op amp's 5V rails with?
Thanks,
Chris
Would you be so kind as to inform us all if Lars is still using 6.3V 68uF caps to bypass the op amp's 5V rails with?
Thanks,
Chris
Lars Clausen said:
Excellent!! That means I'll have it on thursday and hopefully I'll be posting some listening impressions if not the same day so on friday
Anzgar said:
Yes, that's correct, why?
Simply because Lars did a little song and dance after sending me a module with a shorted cap, saying he'd no longer be using them, then decided they're too good to replace and stated "we found a way to keep using them".
However, if they're in fact such a faulty cap as Lars claimed, I find it curious he's still using the exact same ones, and has not said what he's done to ensure they won't fail, which leaves me to believe nothing was done at all. I thought perhaps he'd have gone for a higher voltage rating at least. Surely he didn't switch back to leaded components.
Lars, what _did_ you do here? It would seem nothing at all.
I don't expect you'll provide us with much of an answer here though.
My advice to you Anzgar would be to use them with speakers you don't really care about until such a time that you've come to trust they won't fail with blasts of DC on the output.
Best Regards,
Chris
classd4sure said:
I will be listening! Switching between polarities too.😀 You and Anzgar, it certainly is interesting to know how rugged the NCDs are after all the abuse.
soongsc said:
Yeah yeah, switch polarities to your hearts content, if you hear anything I'm sure it will be a result of the >50mV dC offset that you can't zero. In my view, anyone who believes in such a farce is a great candidate for NCD.
I've yet to abuse these modules, I've been too busy repairing them from the state they were in upon arrival. What I said was that I "should" have instead dropped them, straight into the trash. As it turns out they're now in the best shape they've ever been, and my work continues, valide in every respect.
Good luck with your beyond spec absolute DC offset swapping, I'm reaaally looking forward to those results 🙄
classd4sure said:
Yanking chains for information? 🙄 Very much like what media reporters and polititions do here.
The advice is good Anzgar, no telling what might have happend other than broken caps.
soongsc said:
No just exposing a liar. You'd do well not to fuel this fire any further. I find it a very fair question after all, and one which deserves an honest answer.
classd4sure said:
Yep, I here the same on TV hear too.
I wonder what kind of response you would get if you aske same questions about Panasonic stuff?
So class4sure, sounds like you are very knowledgeable about these things, what do you think about using r-core or o-core transformers with class D modules?
classd4sure said:
I don't know Lars and I don't like the use of this thread for marketing purposes.
But it is just too obivous that you came in here with an agenda. You didn't have to bash Lars' products. OK, it didn't work for you. We know that now and time for you to move on.
No reason to go out of your way to discourage others to try Lars products. and absolutely no reason to wish bad onto your fellow DIYers. Don't do evil, and don't wish evil onto others.
Have a little bit more love for others, and you will get a little bit more love in return.
fokker said:
To say I came into this with any other agenda than to be perfectly honest, while keeping an open mind, just demonstrates your own agenda in posting here.
Save your drivel for elsewhere.
I've always believed that whenever one presents some impressions, it is usefull to everyone to know what specific music were used, what were found listening to these music pieces, and what other equipment was used. If this is not done, it is very diffecult to distinguish whether comments are just for bashing purposes or personal preference.
Don't forget humidity, elevation above sea level, location relative to the magnetic pole, flooring, type of paint used on the walls, % of pollutants in the air, along with their chemical and physical make up.... maybe the results of a hearing test, signed by the doctor, witness, and lawyer...
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I already went into detail on my equipment and listening habits, and stated a variety of music I listen with for testing purposes. I can't keep humoring that. Next it's just going to be rightmark and my soundcard doing the judging... I already said what card I have.
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I already went into detail on my equipment and listening habits, and stated a variety of music I listen with for testing purposes. I can't keep humoring that. Next it's just going to be rightmark and my soundcard doing the judging... I already said what card I have.
classd4sure said:
You forgot fortune teller.😀
I really think you should be in politics. Try and run for something over there.
Chris, seriously, cool it.- Status
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