Would you think a 3 tweeter in verticle arrangement would be any better? How about ina triangle in close proximity (would look butt ugly though)...
yeah i whole heartedly agree.....just dont use a cheap behringer mic
at least spalash out and get a sennheiser or something decent...puleeeze
Have you guys had issues with the (using Holmi) PC or laptop whereby some software EQ'ing or other trickery interfered to make the laptop speaker sound half good and thereby the signal not being flat?
Or should I install Homi in 2 pc's then measure one with the other...to calibrate the first? I am going nuts now.
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yeah i whole heartedly agree.....just dont use a cheap behringer mic
at least spalash out and get a sennheiser or something decent...puleeeze
why not? for FR measurements Behringer will do just as good as any other. Calibration is where you gain precision and credibility.
K-aml, you need to disable all the EQing in the windows. It's the settings issue.
Go on the Holmi thread and ask.
drop tweeters and move mid closer
you have too many tweeters that are interferring with each other and the mids
You only need one tweeter and move the mids closer together after doing that
and have the mids done in parallel and the more narrow the baffle the better
you have too many tweeters that are interferring with each other and the mids
You only need one tweeter and move the mids closer together after doing that
and have the mids done in parallel and the more narrow the baffle the better
Ok since the term comb filtering was thrown out twice... I needed to ensure
1) I understood it
2) Considered it beforerippingout my current design...
I took to the sometimes trusty google and came upon an article written by a designer in a well known speaker company and here is a what he said in a nutshell..
You guys tell me if I should think of it as a huge deal... and I quote:
"Comb filtering is a catchy audio phrase that's used in audio discussions on forums, in articles, and often in the context of critical comments about the specifics of a particular speaker design. The fact is that comb filtering is simply a measurement artifact and does not detract from the listening experience. The research shows that comb filtering is not detrimental to accurate loudspeaker sound reproduction; at worst, it's irrelevant, at best it actually adds a pleasurable element of spaciousness to stereo and surround sound. "
1) I understood it
2) Considered it beforerippingout my current design...
I took to the sometimes trusty google and came upon an article written by a designer in a well known speaker company and here is a what he said in a nutshell..
You guys tell me if I should think of it as a huge deal... and I quote:
"Comb filtering is a catchy audio phrase that's used in audio discussions on forums, in articles, and often in the context of critical comments about the specifics of a particular speaker design. The fact is that comb filtering is simply a measurement artifact and does not detract from the listening experience. The research shows that comb filtering is not detrimental to accurate loudspeaker sound reproduction; at worst, it's irrelevant, at best it actually adds a pleasurable element of spaciousness to stereo and surround sound. "
Everything depends on the details and none are given so its audibility cannot be determined. Some "comb filters effects" are inaudible, others are, it all depends.
Installed the W4-1720's. Not bad.
Fine tuning the xo by ear. Sounds Like the P13 but with more details.
More later.
Question: why is comb filtering not an issue in D'appolito configurations, after there is FR overlap between adjecent drivers....
Fine tuning the xo by ear. Sounds Like the P13 but with more details.
More later.
Question: why is comb filtering not an issue in D'appolito configurations, after there is FR overlap between adjecent drivers....
Comb filtering is mostly an artifact. The mic is a single small spot, your ears and head are not.
So you don't get the same sort of cancellations that a single point, like the mic, does. As Gedlee points out - sometimes it matters, sometimes it does not.
I usually measure only one speaker at a time, not the pair. I do think that with all the drivers you've got on your baffle, comb filtering is going to be an issue. The higher the freq., the worse it will be. That's why you got so many comments about multiple tweeters.
So you don't get the same sort of cancellations that a single point, like the mic, does. As Gedlee points out - sometimes it matters, sometimes it does not.
I usually measure only one speaker at a time, not the pair. I do think that with all the drivers you've got on your baffle, comb filtering is going to be an issue. The higher the freq., the worse it will be. That's why you got so many comments about multiple tweeters.
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