Hi Derek,
This is very interesting, a friend of mine is developing a small system to use either 2 or 4 drivers
I'll be in touch shortly if that is OK?
Regards
Simon 🙂
This is very interesting, a friend of mine is developing a small system to use either 2 or 4 drivers
I'll be in touch shortly if that is OK?
Regards
Simon 🙂
Well I had a very interesting visit to hear Derek's system yesterday, which was a bit of an eye (ear?) opener in many ways.
Derek is a believer in careful use of eq and room correction and I must say that this is the first time I have been convinced of the benefits of the latter. Derek's tuning of what at first appeared to be a haphazard arrangement of subs was anything but!!!
Anyway, onto the BMRs...
The impression I got was of effortless clarity and coherence. I suspect this is down to the low distortion and accurate transient response that results using using many drivers along with the 'speed' of the BMRs. I heard no signs of the usual clues that you are listening to a hifi e.g.: exaggeration of sibilance, colourations (like chestiness), thuddy bass etc. Unfortunately I was not able to hear my own music, but on Derek's music I would say that his system definitely sounds better than 95% of high end systems you would hear at a hifi show, and probably better than the other 5% as well. This was with the rubber surround BMRs, apparently the silk version sounds even better. Also bear in mind that he was using a laptop with an inexpensive DAC to convert to Toslink and a mid-priced Yamaha AV DAC/amp to drive the BMRs - no DCS mega-stack here!!!
After listening to various bits of music and being pretty impressed, Derek played a recording of a drum kit. I went from being pretty impressed to stunned!!!! That was THE most realistic reply of drums I have ever heard (much better than the DCS/Sugden/big Focal system I heard at a hifi show a few years ago)!!!
Can't wait to hear the silk BMRs (if Derek will have me back).
Anyway, Thanks Derek
Derek is a believer in careful use of eq and room correction and I must say that this is the first time I have been convinced of the benefits of the latter. Derek's tuning of what at first appeared to be a haphazard arrangement of subs was anything but!!!
Anyway, onto the BMRs...
The impression I got was of effortless clarity and coherence. I suspect this is down to the low distortion and accurate transient response that results using using many drivers along with the 'speed' of the BMRs. I heard no signs of the usual clues that you are listening to a hifi e.g.: exaggeration of sibilance, colourations (like chestiness), thuddy bass etc. Unfortunately I was not able to hear my own music, but on Derek's music I would say that his system definitely sounds better than 95% of high end systems you would hear at a hifi show, and probably better than the other 5% as well. This was with the rubber surround BMRs, apparently the silk version sounds even better. Also bear in mind that he was using a laptop with an inexpensive DAC to convert to Toslink and a mid-priced Yamaha AV DAC/amp to drive the BMRs - no DCS mega-stack here!!!
After listening to various bits of music and being pretty impressed, Derek played a recording of a drum kit. I went from being pretty impressed to stunned!!!! That was THE most realistic reply of drums I have ever heard (much better than the DCS/Sugden/big Focal system I heard at a hifi show a few years ago)!!!
Can't wait to hear the silk BMRs (if Derek will have me back).
Anyway, Thanks Derek
Sounds incredible for such small drivers!
What configuration did he have the drivers in? Were they line arrays, singles or small groups like 4s?
Cheers
Gary.
What configuration did he have the drivers in? Were they line arrays, singles or small groups like 4s?
Cheers
Gary.
2015 is going to be fun....!
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your positive feedback and glad you enjoyed the demo!
Once I get some demo speakers built up with the silk surround BMR's you are welcome to come back and hear the next level.... Might even throw in some good amps and DAC's to replace the Yamaha AV amp with its "budget" DAC's!!
Speak soon and all the best
Derek.
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your positive feedback and glad you enjoyed the demo!
Once I get some demo speakers built up with the silk surround BMR's you are welcome to come back and hear the next level.... Might even throw in some good amps and DAC's to replace the Yamaha AV amp with its "budget" DAC's!!
Speak soon and all the best
Derek.
Hi Gary,
Sorry, missed that one!
Were you the guy asking about the RS components BMR?
Cheers
Derek.
Sorry, missed that one!
Were you the guy asking about the RS components BMR?
Cheers
Derek.
I don't suppose you got to hear the single BMR unit at Derek's, I have a pair awaiting cabinets, but would be nice to hear what a single one can do, as no doub't 36 drivers in an array can sound amazing, but they aren't the cheapest units around (I'm aware the price reflects the quality)...
I guess I should just build a cabinet and run them in, just too many projects...
I guess I should just build a cabinet and run them in, just too many projects...
And Solid Surface, LG Hi-Macs, just enough to make two small 'monitor' single unit ones.
And some good Hypex gear to drive them!
And some good Hypex gear to drive them!
Sounds cool, cant wait to see what your cabinet design skills comes up with!
Did you go for the Ncore or the Ucd Hypex amps and DCLP?
d.
Did you go for the Ncore or the Ucd Hypex amps and DCLP?
d.
Hi Derek,
Yeah - a few posts back you offered to send me some info etc via email. I'm looking at using them for surround and maybe ceiling speakers in a small home cinema room.
Cheers
Gary
Yeah - a few posts back you offered to send me some info etc via email. I'm looking at using them for surround and maybe ceiling speakers in a small home cinema room.
Cheers
Gary
I didn't listen to any single driver units,bought 8 myself to make a 4 driver pair though,started my cabinets & should have them up & running soon🙂
I went with the UcD180 hg/HRX.
couldn't justify the extra for the nCores. Not just yet.
trying to work out how to real mount the bmr's, and avoid those big black square baskets being visible...
couldn't justify the extra for the nCores. Not just yet.
trying to work out how to real mount the bmr's, and avoid those big black square baskets being visible...
Single BMR design
Cool, the Hypex is good value, should be a sweet combo with the BMR.
I am building a couple of single BMR speakers at the mo, should be ready in about 2 weeks if you want to hear them before you build your own cabinets.
Dave briefly heard 4 BMR's used as a "solo" centre channel just before we had to pack up...Only a couple of minutes of some piano......don't know if he heard enough to comment....He was still in "shock" after the drum solo!!
😀
Gary,
My DIY guide is based on my own BMR's spec and performance....
They are totally different from the RS components drivers so will be of limited use, but I have attached a copy for general info.
All the best
Derek.
Cool, the Hypex is good value, should be a sweet combo with the BMR.
I am building a couple of single BMR speakers at the mo, should be ready in about 2 weeks if you want to hear them before you build your own cabinets.
Dave briefly heard 4 BMR's used as a "solo" centre channel just before we had to pack up...Only a couple of minutes of some piano......don't know if he heard enough to comment....He was still in "shock" after the drum solo!!
😀
Gary,
My DIY guide is based on my own BMR's spec and performance....
They are totally different from the RS components drivers so will be of limited use, but I have attached a copy for general info.
All the best
Derek.
Hi Derek,
Thanks - except I can't seem to see the attachment.
Which BMRs are you using?
Looking forward to hearing about (and hopefully seeing pics of) your singles 🙂
Cheers
Gary
Thanks - except I can't seem to see the attachment.
Which BMRs are you using?
Looking forward to hearing about (and hopefully seeing pics of) your singles 🙂
Cheers
Gary
Has the designed changed?
I was trying to work out if I could pressure fit the driver, have it rear mounted and held in place with bracing, to avoid having to screw from behind into a chamfered front.
To form something like the top cabinet of this idea.
I was trying to work out if I could pressure fit the driver, have it rear mounted and held in place with bracing, to avoid having to screw from behind into a chamfered front.
To form something like the top cabinet of this idea.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
