Marketing Terms - in plain cruel words!

[halojoy]

Yes,
300W amp. 60W Avg, for about 5 minutes... ...poof smoke!
800W amp. 250W Avg for about 30 minutes... ...no problems.
150W amp. 35W Avg for about 30 minutes... ...no problems.

I really depends on the amp.

I've also tested two class D bridged amps at 102Vpeak into a 1.8Ohm speaker.... ...very impressive. You do the math! 🙂 The amps ran in a punks car for about 6 months... ...still running as far as I know...
-Dan

Interesting.
Yes, as always, there are amps that hold their claims.
And there are amps that hide their TRUE performance
behind some smart words.

Imagine the Peak Amperes at your figure!
Truck/Car batteries ARE GOOD at delivering
high momentary Currents.
The power supply you have to use
fed from mains AC,
to deliver 50 Ampere peak, not to mention for a longer period,
would have to be something ...

I guess you had an extreme power supply for testing,
or were you using Batteries?

halo - couldn't perform such tests with his gear 🙄

 

[purplepeople]

"More have you to say?" - Yoda

Limited warranty = You break it, you buy it.

Nike Air = Even air isn't free anymore.

Overnight delivery = If customs doesn't actually exist.

THX = The audience is forced to listen.

User defeatable = On/off capability

Multimedia = Should be seen and not heard.

Legendary performance = The claimed performance is a myth.

Recycled = We're using parts that the others were going to throw out.

Used by XX YY famous celebrity = But not currently.

Military spec = Product will withstand small atomic detonations and costs are correspondingly high.

Satisfaction guaranteed = Don't lose your receipt... ever!

Frequency response 20Hz-20kHz = That's the signal that went in.

Keep out of reach of children = They might actually be able to operate it better than you.

And my favourite...

Industry standard = Lowest common denominator among competitors.


🙂ensen

 

[halojoy]

Shortest possible distance!

😱 Shortest possible distance! 😱

from web advertise for a preamplifier:

The printed circuit board of the XXXXXXX preamplifier is extremely compact,
it is like a Swiss Watch.
It has the absolutely shortest possible input-to-output signal path
(distance from input to output).

it is like a Swiss Watch
you can wear it round your wrist

absolutely shortest possible input-to-output signal path
(distance from input to output)
input jack 5 millilimeter from output jack

 

[SY]

I've moved some of the off topic stuff to... Off Topic.

 

[lineup]

I was in Tonkins car audio earlier today and there was a 300watts amp... I took a closer look, and it said 75watts X 4 max, 35watts X 1 rms.... what the?? wait... 1? I thought it was 4.. perhaps it was actually meant to be 35watts rms X 4... either way it was a TOTAL rip off.. hehe 🙂

So, as I am about to build a 2-channel Class A Power Amplifier
( under construction at my WWW homepage )
with specification something like 2x16 watt in 4 ohm
... should I call it
Amplifier Dual Mono, 64 watt Pure A Classe Current Peaks into 2 ohm

hmmm ...
sure sounds more impressive than 8 watt rms in 8 ohm

 

[lineup]

I have a feeling we could fill a whole book,
that would make quite a laughable reading.
A good laugh makes life worth living!

This, for a start, I found on an australian guitarist's homepage.
It is about a magnetic pickup called Lace Sensors,
which he uses.
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The thing I like least about them has nothing to do with the pickups!
It's the bizarre marketing terms that goes with them.
- Here's my interpretation:

Radiant Field Barriers = shield

Acoustic Sensor = magnetic sensor (try talking into one of them - nothing happens!)

Micro Matrix Comb = magnet assembly (spread evenly along the edges of the pickup)

Ultra Precision Micro Winding = coil winding

Iso Biflux Dual Fields = magnetic fields

Frequency Sensitivity = a measurement only (frequency response versus level)

Anti-Microphonics, Anti-Static = mounted on rubber grommets

Low Energy Particle Magnets = weak magnets
.

Dual Mono in Sophisticated Enclosure = stereo

Black Gate Audio Super Cap = capacitor with some dark paint on

Pass High Power Class A Amplifier = a heater that makes sound
.

😀 😀
From an Audio SILVER CABLE website,
Here is Marketing Attempt of The Day ( MAOTD ):
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Cryogenic Treatment

How does –300 degrees Farenheit sound?
Dang, that's colder than an International Falls winter!

We offer this service to customers who wish to optimally align the molecular metal structure in their cables. This process audibly reduces the noise floor, improves dynamic contrasts and increases palpability slightly.

Don't die wondering! - try it for yourself and see what all the fuss is about!
Available cost effectively for DIY kitsets or fully made cables.
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😉 What real deal is about, is probably this:

Cryogenic Treatment

For an extra cost,
we will keep your ordered cables in a cold room a couple of days, before delivery.
Just in case you do not want to use your own freezer.

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one lineup original
Quote of The Day:

- Don't buy all those marketing terms - all fancy slogans
- Buy good & real stuff instead!
- Or put that stuff together your self 🙂
( by lineup February 2007 at www.diyaudio.com )

 

[phase_accurate]

Not a marketing term but still plain cruel 😉

DRM = Digital Revenue Maintaining


Regards

Charles

 

[eclectic2k]

Ah, my favorite from a recent internet speaker company...

"Advanced Oblate Quasitriangular Antiresonant (OQA™) cabinet design"

I couldn't come up with a funnier more convoluted way to describe a curved cabinet speaker if I tried. The now common teardrop/parabolic/rounded enclosure. I nearly fell over laughing when I saw this OQA joke the first time.

OQA = Overblown Quasi-scientific Antisocial ??

 

[lineup]

Ah, my favorite from a recent internet speaker company...

"Advanced Oblate Quasitriangular Antiresonant (OQA™) cabinet design"

I couldn't come up with a funnier more convoluted way to describe a curved cabinet speaker if I tried. The now common teardrop/parabolic/rounded enclosure. I nearly fell over laughing when I saw this OQA joke the first time.

OQA = Overblown Quasi-scientific Antisocial ??

oooohhh my god!!!!:

"Advanced Oblate Quasitriangular Antiresonant (OQA™) cabinet design"

 

[lineup]

Re: "More have you to say?" - Yoda

Limited warranty = You break it, you buy it.

Nike Air = Even air isn't free anymore.

Overnight delivery = If customs doesn't actually exist.

THX = The audience is forced to listen.

User defeatable = On/off capability

Multimedia = Should be seen and not heard.

Legendary performance = The claimed performance is a myth.

Recycled = We're using parts that the others were going to throw out.

Used by XX YY famous celebrity = But not currently.

Military spec = Product will withstand small atomic detonations and costs are correspondingly high.

Satisfaction guaranteed = Don't lose your receipt... ever!

Frequency response 20Hz-20kHz = That's the signal that went in.

Keep out of reach of children = They might actually be able to operate it better than you.

And my favourite...

Industry standard = Lowest common denominator among competitors.


🙂ensen

ensen
yes, you got the topic alright!
very good

 

[Pjotr]

"Paragon speaker cables employ air dielectrics, the best insulator. Air dielectrics reduce audio signal dissipation distortion and cable bulk. Sealed interwoven zero crystal silver ribbon conductors in Teflon air cores lower capacitance and maintain high mechanical dampening. A specially formulated extruded urethane jacket prevents electrostatic charge induction from carpeted surfaces."

Zero crystal silver? It must be molten then... wow that's hot!

Still puzzled about the “Teflon air” substance …

😀

 

[Simon1972]

maybe they just mean that the grain boundaries are longer than the length of the actual cable,hence no boundaries...lol.

 

[phase_accurate]

Still puzzled about the “Teflon air” substance …

In some RF cables they used insulators made of some kind of "foam", its structure is best described like dense styrofoam (though being a different material). The idea behind this is to have an insulator whose properties are as close to air as possible.
The othe possibility is to use some kind of spacers between inner conductor and shield (like Telefunken Flexwell)

Regards

Charles

 

[Pjotr]

maybe they just mean that the grain boundaries are longer than the length of the actual cable,hence no boundaries...lol.

Maybe 😀

They are lucky they didn’t wrote it in Dutch.

“Teflon air“ in Dutch: “Teflon lucht“

The word “lucht” in Dutch means air as well as sky as well as smell. Probably they meant the last

😉

Charles, I am aware of that. But foamed teflon? Never seen that

 

[Magura]

But foamed teflon? Never seen that

Foamed PTFE is real enough alright 😉 It's used as insulation in radars and stuff like that.

Magura 🙂

 

[Pjotr]

Ok, thanks. Have been around in that area but only encountered sold PTFE there. Anyway it looks heavily overdone to me for audio frequencies.

Cheers 😉

 

[SY]

There's a good chapter on PTFE foams in Klempner & Frisch, "Polymeric Foams." Author of that chapter is Chak Gupta. Basically, it takes a lot of temp, exclusion of oxygen, special materials for the extruder and tooling, and physical nucleators. It's done pretty routinely in the cable biz.

 

[drj759]

Teflon with air = expanded PTFE (ePTFE) = GoreTex.

http://www.gore.com/en_xx/products/electronic/index.html

They make very good low loss, temperature and phase stable microwave cable assemblies and other electrical products with ePTFE.

http://www.gore.com/en_xx/products/cables/index.html

I assume most everyone is familiar with the GoreTex fabric used in outerwear. Same company. Rip apart that expensive parka and start rolling your own audio cables!!!. 😀

http://www.gore.com/en_xx/products/consumer/index.html

 

[KBK]

My favorite was the copper/silver 28 ga 'RG62U similar' that IBM used to run between old vax(ish) mainframe units. Mostly true AIR dielectric, due to the design. Picked up over 600lbs of it one day from a university old equipment 'dumping' place. And lotsa tube scopes..etc..etc.

What if I told you that I eliminated skin effect and propagation issues - period?

What do you think that would sound like? What would that do for(to) all current producers of audio cables, today?

And more importantly, what exactly does that mean, period? 😎

 

[Pjotr]

I assume most everyone is familiar with the GoreTex fabric used in outerwear. Same company. Rip apart that expensive parka and start rolling your own audio cables!!!. 😀

Yes, that is probably the only use for those coats Once owned a GoreTex outdoor jacket. But after a walk of 4 weeks trough the Scottish mountains with my backpack it was completely worn out. If you know how wet is can be there that was damm nasty. Never an expensive GoreTex jacket ever again. An el-cheapo PVC wide rain overcoat from a dump store did the job much much better.

😉