Went to a local electronics store caled Lanstaztic and the owner advised me to just add another 1N4148 in series with the existing one.
His opinion is that LED's put out too much noise.
I am getting 4.95V, so I will now start the production line.
His opinion is that LED's put out too much noise.
I am getting 4.95V, so I will now start the production line.
poynton said:
As you rightly observe, most PCs output SPDIF.
So what would be needed is a SPDIF - I2C converter board .
Not a difficult proposition - Front half of an external DAC.
You could also build one with a USB connector.
I think that would be beyond the scope of this thread but would be of interest to many people.
Andy
Hi,
Looks like this will do the job if anyones interested.
http://www.diyparadise.com/usb.html
Regards
Pete
Chivvyp said:Hi,
Looks like this will do the job if anyones interested.
http://www.diyparadise.com/usb.html
Regards
Pete
Wow, looks good. I wonder if they're still available! 😉
Simon
Hi,YoungSC said:Went to a local electronics store caled Lanstaztic and the owner advised me to just add another 1N4148 in series with the existing one.
His opinion is that LED's put out too much noise.
I am getting 4.95V, so I will now start the production line.
are you using a three diode string (2 red LEDs + 1n4148)?
to get 5.65V output?
If so, then removing the 1n4148 will give the correct voltage 1.8+1.8+1.25~=4.85V.
Check your output voltage into a variety of dummy loads from just below quiescent current to just above [maximum output current + quiescent current] to ensure the regulator is really regulating. Can you vary input voltage to check for variations on output?
The data I have seen is that LEDs are very quiet compared to other diode type voltage references, particularly Zeners, which are very noisy.
Im definitly interested! Ill email the guy that sells them and ask if they are still available. If not we will have to figure something else out. Is anyone else interested in this at all?? If we get some interest in it maybe we can put our heads together and come up with something🙂 Im very interested in using the cd67 as a stand alone DAC for my PC. Anyone know if you would still have to press play to get sound out of it if your not using the cd transport? Or does the play button just control the transport? Where would we hook up the I2s output in the cd67? Ill let you guys know what I find out.Chivvyp said:
Hi,
Looks like this will do the job if anyones interested.
http://www.diyparadise.com/usb.html
Regards
Pete
thanks
Ok well I just checked the website an the USB converters are in stock for $30 USD. Im thinking of ordering one, but id like some input about this from the cd63/67 experts in here , Im a college student so money is tight and I dont wanna waste $30. So how bout it guys, will this work??
usb to spdif converter
this could also be modded to output i2s. It uses the Philips uda1321 usb dac chip which outputs i2s.
I also found this thread
usb->i2s->dac
seems other people have tried what we want to do, but i'm surprised with the amount of cd63/67s floating around that no one has tried converting it to a dac?? The only negative is that usb will only output 16/44 which isn't a problem for us since the cd63/67 only does 16/44. I guess I wont be able to play any of my 24/96 files with this setup, but I only have a few so its not a big deal. I'm willing to spend the $30 to try this, but ill need some help with how to hook it up and all that stuff.
happy listening!
this could also be modded to output i2s. It uses the Philips uda1321 usb dac chip which outputs i2s.
I also found this thread
usb->i2s->dac
seems other people have tried what we want to do, but i'm surprised with the amount of cd63/67s floating around that no one has tried converting it to a dac?? The only negative is that usb will only output 16/44 which isn't a problem for us since the cd63/67 only does 16/44. I guess I wont be able to play any of my 24/96 files with this setup, but I only have a few so its not a big deal. I'm willing to spend the $30 to try this, but ill need some help with how to hook it up and all that stuff.
happy listening!
Mmmm ... tubes ...
Sorry it's a bit OT, but here is my latest project. Not too shabby! Not near the detail and clarity of my CD63, but a pleasure to listen to thanks to the tube output stage!
Dynaco CDV-1 Modification
Sorry it's a bit OT, but here is my latest project. Not too shabby! Not near the detail and clarity of my CD63, but a pleasure to listen to thanks to the tube output stage!
Dynaco CDV-1 Modification
imperfectcircle said:Ok well I just checked the website an the USB converters are in stock for $30 USD. Im thinking of ordering one, but id like some input about this from the cd63/67 experts in here , Im a college student so money is tight and I dont wanna waste $30. So how bout it guys, will this work??
You could also add a couple of gates to switch between the internal cdm and the external cd source.
Andy
AndrewT said:
Hi,
are you using a three diode string (2 red LEDs + 1n4148)?
to get 5.65V output?
If so, then removing the 1n4148 will give the correct voltage 1.8+1.8+1.25~=4.85V.
Check your output voltage into a variety of dummy loads from just below quiescent current to just above [maximum output current + quiescent current] to ensure the regulator is really regulating. Can you vary input voltage to check for variations on output?
The data I have seen is that LEDs are very quiet compared to other diode type voltage references, particularly Zeners, which are very noisy.
Hi Andrew,
I'm getting the same voltage from a 9V battery and a 12V AC/DC converter into a 470 ohm load.
You may be right about LED's being quiet. You would definitely know more about that than me. Ray's plans had Zener's so I thought I'd stick with that. The regs do look cool with LED's though 🙂
Simon
Hi Young,
can you confirm what you have finally used to achieve that 4.95Vdc output?
Edit,
What did you actually use that gave the successful result?
That ref to excess current through the zeners is wrong. The current through the Zeners is limited to the regulator current + the resistor out to adjust (1.25/100)
can you confirm what you have finally used to achieve that 4.95Vdc output?
Edit,
What did you actually use that gave the successful result?
That ref to excess current through the zeners is wrong. The current through the Zeners is limited to the regulator current + the resistor out to adjust (1.25/100)
Same as the Super-Raygulators, except in the 5V output version I've used two 1N4148's in series instead of just one to get the required voltage.
The 12V version doesn't need this extra part.
I think the Zeners in the 5V version draw a lot of current, so you need the extra diode to make the difference.
Simon
The 12V version doesn't need this extra part.
I think the Zeners in the 5V version draw a lot of current, so you need the extra diode to make the difference.
Simon
imperfectcircle said:
Im definitly interested! Ill email the guy that sells them and ask if they are still available. If not we will have to figure something else out. Is anyone else interested in this at all?? If we get some interest in it maybe we can put our heads together and come up with something🙂 Im very interested in using the cd67 as a stand alone DAC for my PC. Anyone know if you would still have to press play to get sound out of it if your not using the cd transport? Or does the play button just control the transport? Where would we hook up the I2s output in the cd67? Ill let you guys know what I find out.
thanks
Hi,
I believe the I2S feed goes through RD11 (DATA), RD12 (SCLK), RD13 (WCLK) on the 63.
R501,2,3 on the CD67 I think but you'd need to trace from pins 45,46 and 48 on the SAA7372 to be sure.
Incidentally, I've also read about lifting these 3 resistors and feeding through a TDA1543 to make the marantz nonoversampling. It's something I might try if I can get hold of a TDA1543 cheaply (evidently stacking 8-10 of them gives a very good result).
You/d have to be careful when using the Marantx as a transport not to disconnect anything (like clock disconnects between clock and chip) which give focus errors or similar and stop the machine functioning.
Regards
Pete
Hi there!
First, I've now a gain at my Hphones opamp of... 1! So It's almot useless here, is it ok to remove all? I mean bypass all hphones pcb (and remove stuff) and wire from C901/C902 (removed) to J901. Then may C980 be upgraded for sound?
Second, we have an exclusive Nora Jones performance on one of our biggest radio here, I'll try to record it at CD's PCM specs. Does some want it?
Thanks for hphones answer 😉
First, I've now a gain at my Hphones opamp of... 1! So It's almot useless here, is it ok to remove all? I mean bypass all hphones pcb (and remove stuff) and wire from C901/C902 (removed) to J901. Then may C980 be upgraded for sound?
Second, we have an exclusive Nora Jones performance on one of our biggest radio here, I'll try to record it at CD's PCM specs. Does some want it?
Thanks for hphones answer 😉
No sure how many of you have improved your mains whether it be with a new lead or using such items as Russ Andrews sells.
Well I have stripped down the Mini Purifier (£150)
What did suprise me was the lower component count and less filtering capabilities it had compared to my own Ultra plug (£65). Some over pricing there I think!!!
No Noise Ultra piccy (note:- pic is from development stage, some parts have changed)
Brent
Well I have stripped down the Mini Purifier (£150)
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
What did suprise me was the lower component count and less filtering capabilities it had compared to my own Ultra plug (£65). Some over pricing there I think!!!
No Noise Ultra piccy (note:- pic is from development stage, some parts have changed)
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Brent
150pounds does seem alot of money for a box, 4 caps, 3 resistors, 1 vdr and a diode (?)
Did you ever find out what the 'Toffee' was ??
Andy
Did you ever find out what the 'Toffee' was ??
Andy
Hi Andy
Of course some of the cost is R&D and time to build but its just as quick to build that as his Silencer plug. So yes its over priced. It takes me a good 30 mins (and i'm efficient at it) to build ours.
The diode is a transient diode.
The Toffee is an unknown quantity at the moment, I have feelers out all over the place and nobody knows what it actually is.
As a company we are trying to get similar products out to people at much more sensible prices. These plugs do work but paying hundreds of pounds for a few plugs makes it hard to part with your cash. These prices put people off from even trying such a product.
Brent
Of course some of the cost is R&D and time to build but its just as quick to build that as his Silencer plug. So yes its over priced. It takes me a good 30 mins (and i'm efficient at it) to build ours.
The diode is a transient diode.
The Toffee is an unknown quantity at the moment, I have feelers out all over the place and nobody knows what it actually is.
As a company we are trying to get similar products out to people at much more sensible prices. These plugs do work but paying hundreds of pounds for a few plugs makes it hard to part with your cash. These prices put people off from even trying such a product.
Brent
Yes, and have you ever checked what idly lumping capacitance across the mains can do? It makes things worse! See the 'Dont' try this at home' section here:
http://www.acoustica.org.uk/other/filter.html
PS - this was on a socket thats a spur just 600mm from my consumer unit (100A service). Things will be even worse on longer mains runs
http://www.acoustica.org.uk/other/filter.html
PS - this was on a socket thats a spur just 600mm from my consumer unit (100A service). Things will be even worse on longer mains runs
Fitting an inductor is the worst thing you can do! it adds inductance for starters.
Also and LC circuit reacts differently to a capacitor only circuit.
Fitting caps across L-N does cause a small phase shift but this is not a problem.
SerCals and Russ Andrews plugs are parallel filters, series filters add their own problems.
Brent
Also and LC circuit reacts differently to a capacitor only circuit.
Fitting caps across L-N does cause a small phase shift but this is not a problem.
SerCals and Russ Andrews plugs are parallel filters, series filters add their own problems.
Brent
Yes but did you look at the plot lower down - simply adding 'parallel filters' - i.e. only capacitance L-N - increases noise on the line.
Its almost exactly the same problem as bypassing caps with small ones of other types - you get unpredicted resonances, in this case firmly inside the audioband. It's not a panacea...
Its almost exactly the same problem as bypassing caps with small ones of other types - you get unpredicted resonances, in this case firmly inside the audioband. It's not a panacea...
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