As longtime apple user i do not look back. And each and every OSX/MACOS version looks the same ( approximatly)
why change a winning concept ?
Also all my application will work just as before.
why change a winning concept ?
Also all my application will work just as before.
You are so "on point" with this. My biggest complaint about win 10 and more so win 11 is not being able to find things where they have always been. It's a new mystery with each feature update as to where the settings and standard apps (backup for example) are located. And also the weird stuff. If you want MONO audio it is not in sound settings, it is in accessibility.
Jeremy
Win 10 on a 7th gen i7.
I also have a desktop with Win 10 on an overclocked 4700k that still benchmarks above a lot of 8th+ gen processors.
I'm on a 4785t (hp mini) right now 12gig and ssd, no need to upgrade until it dies. It's plenty fast for it's job.
I tried making my own xml via the web interface yesterday, and copied it to my Win11pro install usb disk. It worked really well! Quick and easy install with basically everything as I want it!
Thats not limited to Microsoft/Windows. Applications that you pay good money for do that too with each new release, and make you want to go after someone with a baseball bat.
It has been going on for years. Anyone remember when the MS Office "ribbon" menus came out? I personally hated it. The drop-down menus that had evolved over the years were sensible, and helped keep things organised with self-explanatory names like 'options' or 'file'.
But, to my surprise, I saw that I lot of people at my job actually liked the new ribbon-style mess. You want to know why? Because the employer had to organise special training, which meant going away from the office to attend seminars and get food catering and whatever else. Basically, microsoft broke a lot of windows (kek) to help boost the economy for no reason.
And those newer menus still s*ck. It takes far too long to find anything. It was never a matter of "relearning" -- they're just persistently less intuitive than what they replaced. And that's the makers of Windows in a nutshell.
But, to my surprise, I saw that I lot of people at my job actually liked the new ribbon-style mess. You want to know why? Because the employer had to organise special training, which meant going away from the office to attend seminars and get food catering and whatever else. Basically, microsoft broke a lot of windows (kek) to help boost the economy for no reason.
And those newer menus still s*ck. It takes far too long to find anything. It was never a matter of "relearning" -- they're just persistently less intuitive than what they replaced. And that's the makers of Windows in a nutshell.
I could get in serious trouble for what I was about to post…. just leave it as a like and call it good.
How do you manage the possibility that it has been tampered with?
What about a clean install?
Put a test system on the network with a port scanner - then observe all the traffic.
My copy installs as 20H2 , then I am forced upgrade to 21H2 ,but no further.
My 5th gen XEON E5-2697 V4= 24500 passmark. My sons new 2021 Ryzen 7 3D 8 core = 28000 passmark. The only processors that will do 30K+
are the newest Ryzen's , any Threadripper. New Intel 11th/12th will do 40K+. New Threadrippers will do 100K+++.
AMD rules , 5th to 9th gen I7/Xeons are all 14nm , no advancement for years.
Edit -12-13th gen intels have bad interconnects that degrade inside the CPU. Search "new I7/9 blue screens". At least intel is RMA'ing
most of the bad ones. There is a patch to throttle the CPU , to save the rest. DON'T want a new intel.
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I agree with this but not the reason for the change to a more pictorial based system. I for instance have a lot of trouble with phones and Mac OS for administrative and terminal related type things. To me they are not intuitive at all. I also hated the ribbon as it was like a picture book and took up to much real estate.
As for the rest of your rant I'm not sure it has to do with the bad decisions of MS .More the work ethic of you coworkers. Also you mentioned that you had a job that forced you to move to a new employer to get an OS that suited you. Might I suggest that some people just liked the new interface and that an employer has the right to use whatever OS they see fit even if it is a bad choice. As far as the OS tracking you I would remind you that embezzlement is real, theft of wages is real. I suggest that if you work at a place that tracks your bathroom habits that is the reason to leave not the OS.
I thought I was in the land of conspiracy but it seem like you are. At any rate please stop trolling my thread. If you don,t like windows start a thread. If you would like to inform people of the intel CPU issues then start a thread. If you want to explain how a ribbon menu interface is actually a market shifting conspiracy start a thread. If you want to bash previous coworkers and employers start a thread.
As for high pass mark scours they are like SPL contests. We are way past the times of the computer slowing us down with the exception of cad/cam , compiling and game play.
At any rate again please stop trolling this thread. After all I am only trying to ease the burden for anyone who might be using windows 11 for any reason. To me this does not seem to be a bad thing that's why I started this thread.
Jeremy OP
I have installed 10 on another machine and let it upgrade to 11 so that I have a base line. This base line machine will not be modified beyond personalization settings.
I am setting this base line PC because I am starting to think that it is fine for the common user with little more than letting onedrive run but don't sync your folders other than the default one drive folder, installing a preferred web browser and turning of suggestions.
will copy to post #1
Jeremy
I am setting this base line PC because I am starting to think that it is fine for the common user with little more than letting onedrive run but don't sync your folders other than the default one drive folder, installing a preferred web browser and turning of suggestions.
will copy to post #1
Jeremy
Win11 LTSB (24H2) is just a few update cycles ahead of my win 10.
Same old thing with M$ trying to
-hook you on their cloud services.
-Push you to their browser , so they can know you better.
-A couple stupid GUI "tweaks". Taskbar centered .... like a MAC ! SHAME , stealing Apple's IP !
-Better support for smart CPU's with AI/efficient/performance cores. Hope intel gets gen 14 right.
-The core OS will even be able to use graphic card AI acceleration.
So , no real difference for the non-consumer OS. I'm sure the consumer version will try to "hard force" the browser and AI
components. Forever adding new stupid experimental features with every update. For us to debug , of course !
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Edit - I am "playing" with 11 LTSB now.
Same old thing with M$ trying to
-hook you on their cloud services.
-Push you to their browser , so they can know you better.
-A couple stupid GUI "tweaks". Taskbar centered .... like a MAC ! SHAME , stealing Apple's IP !
-Better support for smart CPU's with AI/efficient/performance cores. Hope intel gets gen 14 right.
-The core OS will even be able to use graphic card AI acceleration.
So , no real difference for the non-consumer OS. I'm sure the consumer version will try to "hard force" the browser and AI
components. Forever adding new stupid experimental features with every update. For us to debug , of course !
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Edit - I am "playing" with 11 LTSB now.
No, I never said that. I didn't question work ethic either -- maybe MS Office training was something people could put on their CV?
This is far too confusing for me on a Friday.
Went with Linux long ago. At the office, W10 is a disaster. This week I got 4 updates that were forced, including each time a reboot you could not stop. The laptop sits from the moment you turn it on at 35% CPU and 48% memory used. All the time! Even if it just sits there doing nothing at all. It can barely work 2 hours on a full battery charge.
I used Linux for many years but had to keep Windows on another laptop because there were no Linux versions or alternatives.
However I successfully blocked MS from upgrading Win 10 to 11 using the group policy editor
I am totally opposed to MS being able to force unwanted updates and upgrades on me. Why do the powers that be allow it (they are terrified of MS, that's why)?
There are two ways you can fix bugs/unwanted OS behaviours. The right way is to find the root cause of a problem, which can be difficult and time consuming. Then presuming you find it.. a well written program might have a simple error but a poorly written one might want parts of it rewritten. This leads to other needed changes and before you know it, the whole philosophy is being written from scratch.
Ironically things are done right more often with open source software, which may be done more out of appreciation for the product, and less done to a budget. Also needed significant changes that are best in the long term but challenging in the short term are more likely to be accepted.
Usually when programs are hacked up rather than fixed, it may become slower, more processor intensive, much harder again to fix or to extend the capabilities of or to add features to in the future. You may even see memory leaks in the short term due to carelessness or unnecessary complexity.
It's this kind of flakiness over time that is subtle which you need to remember. A program that works in the end may get the job done but that doesn't mean it's worthy of putting much confidence in it.
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It's just working hard to keep a Russian botnet up and running.
Or, it's making some bitcoin...
