A screen is necessary to fix. Reboot inot recovery mode (hold down option ley on reboot) and reinstall from TimeMachine using Disk Utility.
If you can’t borrow a motor take it into your Apple Store and they will do it for you.
In the (VERY) outside a hardware issue likely foixed with a new mini given its age.
mini is intended to fit into systems where a monitor/Keyboard/mouse are already at hand. You are hobbling yourself without.
dave
If you can’t borrow a motor take it into your Apple Store and they will do it for you.
In the (VERY) outside a hardware issue likely foixed with a new mini given its age.
mini is intended to fit into systems where a monitor/Keyboard/mouse are already at hand. You are hobbling yourself without.
dave
That might upset the thermal design.
But was the previous model rear-mounted power switch really any better?
I always put it to sleep rather than turning it off with the switch.
But was the previous model rear-mounted power switch really any better?
I always put it to sleep rather than turning it off with the switch.
As I already wrote I have the hagibis stand so that it can be used. The thermal design is nothing to worry about as it has ventilation slots all around but only at the plastic bottom cover. Stands to put it on its side are sold as apparently JP is not the only planet inhabitant that switches all electrical stuff off at night.
It can not be restored as it has no video output. A backup from Time Machine is not possible. It does nothing, apparently it has no basic software in EFi to show any message not even a cursor blinking. Even SBCs have some output when things are wrong.
Maybe you better wait a little. If this issue is a more often occurring issue you may want to skip M4. It has not the same solid feeling as the marvelous M2 (or the then groundbreaking M1).
Please stop the denial of the power button as I then strongly advise to have your audio with power buttons at the bottom. Yes I do switch stuff off as that is fully normal. I switch my lights off when I leave rooms, switch my audio off when I go to sleep. The PITA is that it is unreachable.
You need a revive / restore. You can attempt using Apple Configurator 2 along with another Mac and cable, failing that a trip to a Apple repair centre. Its a quick procedure, a revive preserves data (usually) and a revive restores firmware and deletes data.
Power button is where it is because the computer is meant to be left on. It goes into power saving mode when it deems it necessary. I think the power button location is great, saves space on the outer surface.
I get where you are coming from and agree on some points but you don't really own any consumer electronics anymore, you just lease them although you thought you paid for it and therefore own it. That's a fallacy.
While you may technically own it the manufacturer still has for lack of a better word dominion over it.
Maybe you better wait a little. If this issue is a more often occurring issue you may want to skip M4. It has not the same solid feeling as the marvelous M2 (or the then groundbreaking M1).
Please stop the denial of the power button as I then strongly advise to have your audio with power buttons at the bottom. Yes I do switch stuff off as that is fully normal. I switch my lights off when I leave rooms, switch my audio off when I go to sleep. The PITA is that it is unreachable.
You need a revive / restore. You can attempt using Apple Configurator 2 along with another Mac and cable, failing that a trip to a Apple repair centre. Its a quick procedure, a revive preserves data (usually) and a revive restores firmware and deletes data.
Power button is where it is because the computer is meant to be left on. It goes into power saving mode when it deems it necessary. I think the power button location is great, saves space on the outer surface.
I get where you are coming from and agree on some points but you don't really own any consumer electronics anymore, you just lease them although you thought you paid for it and therefore own it. That's a fallacy.
While you may technically own it the manufacturer still has for lack of a better word dominion over it.
The only issue is the power button. The scheme to restore any Mac has been the same since optical drives were removed.
The only real issue is that you got a mini without having a monitor, keyboard, & mouse already. It does have HDMI out for use with a TV.
dave
The only real issue is that you got a mini without having a monitor, keyboard, & mouse already. It does have HDMI out for use with a TV.
dave
Well I don't agree that it is meant to be left on as that would be unacceptable. All the other ones had it at the back side and they survived many years of the switching on/off torture. Mac Studio still have it at the backside corner. I never felt the need to defend a billion dollar brand that makes a stupid design error either.
Dave I do not have a real issue because I do not have a monitor, keyboard & mouse as I have all of those. How could I otherwise have used it? The darn thing died after a software update.
It is "bring your own monitor, keyboard, mouse, USB hub, various adapter cables, stand to be able to switch it on and a second Mac to recover it" 🙂
Will do that. It will for sure be sold afterwards.
Dave I do not have a real issue because I do not have a monitor, keyboard & mouse as I have all of those. How could I otherwise have used it? The darn thing died after a software update.
It is "bring your own monitor, keyboard, mouse, USB hub, various adapter cables, stand to be able to switch it on and a second Mac to recover it" 🙂
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True, until now. The ARM (Apple Silicon) processors have a different method. The iMac lost the optical drive ~ 2010 or 2011 I think.
Yes, all had it on the back. I still have one of the originals, although it's a paperweight now. I don't think anyone is defending anything here, at least I'm not, and it's not a design error but a conscious design decision on their part. Although you are having an issue with your computer remember there are probably millions of them in the field working fine ( very popular with server farms). Bear in mind macOS is Unix with a pretty face and while imho not quite as good as plain old Unix, It is still ultra stable hence power button placement. Not many people still turn off computers, not saying it's right or wrong but I do not think it's necessary anymore either.
On the other hand, my pet peeve is the removal of headphone jacks on cell phones and forcing the use of Bluetooth devices. I understand the space created by the jacks removal creates space for other things but I prefer a physical jack. My 13 year old grandson finds me quite amusing when discussing things like that😀
I have had Macs running literally for years without a restart. I have three old Macs, an iMac 27, last gen mini and 2012 13" MBPro all past software update support so they all run Linux Mint.
The power switch on the bottom is clearly a nudging tactic to encourage never fully turning off the machine. I guess that Apple is working at some product that will benefit/require having the mac always ready to exit from sleep in a short time. They already have done this on iOS devices, as example the Find-my network works because any iOS device is constantly scanning for BLE beacons. The end result may be beneficial, and Apple silicon devices have a very low power consumption in sleep state. It is best to avoid turning off modern desktop computers by removing the power externally, with a switched power strip as example. The clock battery inside will drain, sometime in less than a year, and due to operating system components checking for software certificates validity and/or custom firmware settings, the computer may fail to boot until date is manually set or custom settings are restored. This may not be intuitive to do.
Maybe it is because it is their cheapest model which always seems to need a handicap and many adapter cables. As said the Mac Studio still has it at the same position as the previous Mini. It is of course deliberately done and draws attention which is good for them as there is no such thing as negative publicity. It for sure shows that brand zealotry makes people defend the stupidest of things and that such a brand can **** on customers that will return a smile. To some Apple is a lifestyle with religion like aspects and not a computer brand. If you say you have a new but defective one just see what happens.
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Not what i was talking about, but how amazon treats workers and sellers is another good reason.
dave
Yeah... Why support a legacy interface when a newer, faster, smaller, more user-friendly, and backwards compatible one is available?
I use a MacBook Pro on my desktop (and lap). It has only USB-C/Thunderbolt ports. When I use it on a desk I plug it into a single USB-C to an external monitor. The monitor has a USB hub where my webcam, sound card, etc. are connected. Easy. The single USB-C cable handles charging, video, USB, and ethernet.
I get that your use case is different. But I would keep in mind that new devices will be USB-C. Even if they don't need the data rate users will want the smaller and more user-friendly plug.
USB-A to USB-C adapters are dirt cheap, so I don't see why having only USB-C ports should result in a downward "I hate life" spiral.
Tom
Lights use vastly more power than a computer in standby. Also, when you "power off" any computer made since the mid/late 1980s when computers had actual power switches, the SMPS and some housekeeping circuitry are still running. Otherwise the computer wouldn't turn on when you push the low-voltage, momentary power switch.
I suggest measuring the standby consumption when the computer is in standby and when it is powered "off". I'd be interested in the results.
Tom
What a bunch of nonsense. Why get personal and take stuff out of context repeatedly? "I hate life" spiral"....., it is about a product with flaws. You don't need to suggest anything. I switch off all my stuff as I am boss in my home and not some computer manufacturer and its crowd of believers. I have seen the devastating consequences of fires in homes, it has nothing to do with power consumption. Why defend this while you don't even have one? How can you judge?
I am entitled to think what I like to think based on what I experienced and described in post #1. The M2 I have (made in 2023) is a lot better and just like the new M4 Mac Studio it has an accessible power button and USB-A ports (I don't complain about USB-C if that was not clear). Both have issues with USB 3.2 gen 2 however. External stuff that requires a fast interface like USB-C 3.2 gen 2 does not operate at 20 gbps but goes to 10 gbps. Why Apple supports a legacy interface when a newer, faster and backwards compatible one is available is unknown.
The new Mac Mini M4 is dead. Contrary to its owner it apparently suffered from a "I hate life" spiral. After a phone call it was sent to Apple. As I understood this is surely not unique. "Ah amber LED blinking".
I am entitled to think what I like to think based on what I experienced and described in post #1. The M2 I have (made in 2023) is a lot better and just like the new M4 Mac Studio it has an accessible power button and USB-A ports (I don't complain about USB-C if that was not clear). Both have issues with USB 3.2 gen 2 however. External stuff that requires a fast interface like USB-C 3.2 gen 2 does not operate at 20 gbps but goes to 10 gbps. Why Apple supports a legacy interface when a newer, faster and backwards compatible one is available is unknown.
The new Mac Mini M4 is dead. Contrary to its owner it apparently suffered from a "I hate life" spiral. After a phone call it was sent to Apple. As I understood this is surely not unique. "Ah amber LED blinking".
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