I didn't understand your post either.
Maybe Arny and I are just dumb - we agree on most things so either were both dumb or both enlightened.
But I don't see how the joke has any implications to the validity of the paper.
Considering personal values, what is funny as a joke does not seem to be a good criterion in determining if someone is overestimating their expertise in the matter. No biggie, I still LMAO at Rodney Dangerfield.
^ Take my ex wives, please.
Right, that's why I post here, no respect. BTW SY would concur. 🙂
Lighten up guys, happy holidays and best wishes to your families.
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Do you think that's funny? I think it's mean to the kid, OTOH I think W. C . Fields is funny.
Those experts from the text about jokes must have some serious
mental problems, IMO. I could lough about the shaddow joke and only
cry about the latter one.
Too many experts have been taken away by the wambulance. There is an old saying about being able to dish it out, but not being able to.....
There is an old saying about being able to dish it out, but not being able to.....
Yes but many who dish it out have no idea about even basic science, let alone about the physics of audio, that lesser facet of the spectrum (and I include myself in that). Many of the great physicists have laboured in vain if one looks at some of the commentary from "audiophiles".
Considering personal values, what is funny as a joke does not seem to be a good criterion in determining if someone is overestimating their expertise in the matter. No biggie, I still LMAO at Rodney Dangerfield.
Me, I'm a Sam Kinison kind of guy. If you find this funny, then you are as sick as I am.
arnyk.................
You certainly have an unfortunate 'knack' of rubbing people up the wrong way in your posts on DIYaudio; Google tells me that this it has been a noted feature of your input on other sites.
As an expert in a field which has to do with human response how do you explain the effect which your interventions create - here and elsewhere.....................or may it simply be a case of "they are all out of step except my Johnny"
You certainly have an unfortunate 'knack' of rubbing people up the wrong way in your posts on DIYaudio; Google tells me that this it has been a noted feature of your input on other sites.
As an expert in a field which has to do with human response how do you explain the effect which your interventions create - here and elsewhere.....................or may it simply be a case of "they are all out of step except my Johnny"
I have known Arny for decades and see him regularly. He can rub people the wrong way even in person, but I think that the fact is that he doesn't really care what someone thinks if they are spouting false information. I'm a little like that as well. If you want to come here and spew out misinformation then be prepared to take the consequences. Most of the time the people taking offense do so as a protection against loosing the argument - the best defense is a strong offense.
Thanks a lot for that: it does seem to put the problem in perspective and has certainly helped modify my perception.
He can rub people the wrong way even in person, but I think that the fact is that he doesn't really care what someone thinks if they are spouting false information.
A general description of an individual who is not very objective, the essential requirement for rationality.
(but rather amusing in this particular case)
Me, I'm a Sam Kinison kind of guy. If you find this funny, then you are as sick as I am.
Well…
Um…
Er…
I've never seen that clip before, and it makes me feel … vindicated: although I haven't the genius to come up with U-Hauls, I actually have on many dinner-party occasions “entertained the table” by telling exactly this opinion - replete with “did the film crew feed them?” and “they're living in fûcking sand' ”. Too funny. Way too funny: yet how true!!!
I had a remarkably un-funny (except to a few of us, who 'got it' sort of way) English Lit professor who once rhetorically asked, “Do you know what funny is, what makes people laugh?” Most of us didn't, really. His answer was so simple that I still ponder it all the time. Four words: “Something that bothers you”.
That's why Sam's African Kids diatribe works - starvation (pathos), sandwiches (riches on every corner), sand (bothersome), U-Hauls (ubiquity in America), quiet story telling, shouting at top of his lungs … all juxtaposed into Sam's Humor. And yet - he's also 100% right, isn't he? That's the genius of turning the obvious into something bothersome, something humorous, but also something that will not be easily forgotten by the audience.
Without the shouting, Eddie Izzard is achieving similar genius. Hope you like him, Sy!
GoatGuy
A general description of an individual who is not very objective, the essential requirement for rationality.
(but rather amusing in this particular case)
I assure you Arny is usually very objective. He can be blindsided by a few personal opinions, but that is not common. He is the king of soundcard research, less knowledgeable about loudspeakers and psychoacoustics.
Mr gedlee,
I'm positive Mr. Krueger is knowledgeable on the main and only thing he's focused on, I've read his stuff for much longer than his stay at this forum.
Both are beside the point.
I'm positive Mr. Krueger is knowledgeable on the main and only thing he's focused on, I've read his stuff for much longer than his stay at this forum.
Both are beside the point.
I certainly have respect for all the experts who slug it out here. I remember a thread here long ago that was actually about the field my master's was in (non audio). I just patiently tried to correct all the incorrect things being stated, but was quickly bullied out of the thread. I of course realize this is what every day on the forum looks like to some! Congratulations, because i know i would never have the patience to put up with it ��
LOL. Your secret is out, Earl. And you did it! 😀Most of the time the people taking offense do so as a protection against loosing the argument - the best defense is a strong offense.
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