Would you please recommend a switching solutions how to select 2 amps with one set speakers
Is It better to use switch or relay solution
Is It better to use switch or relay solution
I would select between (1) speakers and (2) dummy loads, so the amplifiers will allways see a proper load. Make sure whatever you use for switching, you use a high duty switch/relay.
Regards, Gerrit
Regards, Gerrit
Be sure to use a break-before-make switch, or the amplifier outputs will be shorted together and destruct.
No reason to use either switch or relay, both would work. Get an adequate current rating for the contacts.
No reason to use either switch or relay, both would work. Get an adequate current rating for the contacts.
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A relay and a switch are the same thing. Only difference is one is moved by your finger, the other is moved by a magnet coil.
Here are the details: Connecting 2 amplifiers to one set of speakers: making an amp/speakers selector switch |
Amplifier selector with dummy load
Attached is a schematic of amplifier selector with dummy load for safely switching tube or solid state amplifiers. The selector is a Grayhill 44A45-02-03S three position shorting style rotary switch, one per channel. Center position is for "speaker off" to prevent both amplifier outputs shorted together.
The reason of using shorting style (make-before-break) rotary switch is to ensure both amplifiers will be connected to a load at all times, either to the speaker or a resistor dummy load.
44A45-02-2-03S Grayhill | Mouser
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Attached is a schematic of amplifier selector with dummy load for safely switching tube or solid state amplifiers. The selector is a Grayhill 44A45-02-03S three position shorting style rotary switch, one per channel. Center position is for "speaker off" to prevent both amplifier outputs shorted together.
The reason of using shorting style (make-before-break) rotary switch is to ensure both amplifiers will be connected to a load at all times, either to the speaker or a resistor dummy load.
44A45-02-2-03S Grayhill | Mouser
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Thank you very much for Input guys and specially @chrisng which solution I Intend to use
Chris,
can I remove dummy load part from schematic If I do not use tube amplifier
that way I will have one Grayhill 44A45-02-03S selector per loudspeaker / channel
Chris,
can I remove dummy load part from schematic If I do not use tube amplifier
that way I will have one Grayhill 44A45-02-03S selector per loudspeaker / channel

If you do not want to use dummy load for your switching circuit, a Grayhill 44A45-02-2-03S actually can switch two amps with one pair of speakers, please refer to the attached schematic. In this case, a shorting style 3 position rotary switch can be use but is not necessary, you can also use ON-OFF-ON toggle switch to get higher power handling capacity with lower cost.
https://www.mouser.com/Electromecha...0z2qmZ1z0z2qcZ1z0x8fvZ1z0x8gwZ1z0x8h3Z1y8pmra
If center OFF position is not necessary then a ON-ON toggle switch like the link provided by Galu should work as well, just be sure to use a break-before-make switch as rayma mentioned.
However, Not all solid state amplifier can be ON without load (like those without a Zobel network at output). Best to check with user manual for safe switching.
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Chris,
Great post, once again thank you
I forgot to say that one of the amps will always be power off and switching will be before power on
Idea Is to select between F5 amp and Home theater receiver
using just one high quality switch Grayhill 44A45-02-2-03S Is welcomed
best regards
Great post, once again thank you
I forgot to say that one of the amps will always be power off and switching will be before power on
Idea Is to select between F5 amp and Home theater receiver
using just one high quality switch Grayhill 44A45-02-2-03S Is welcomed
best regards
Amplifier selector with dummy load
Attached is a schematic of amplifier selector with dummy load for safely switching tube or solid state amplifiers. The selector is a Grayhill 44A45-02-03S three position shorting style rotary switch, one per channel. Center position is for "speaker off" to prevent both amplifier outputs shorted together.
The reason of using shorting style (make-before-break) rotary switch is to ensure both amplifiers will be connected to a load at all times, either to the speaker or a resistor dummy load.
@chrisng
I know this is an old thread, but this design is pretty darn clever!
I started looking into adding a class D SS amp that would share the same speakers with a SE tube amp that always need a load to be happy.
So, I need a switch, with all the right properties.
It should break before make, switch all 4 wires independently, swing a dummy load left or right so that said load is always present regardless of what amp has dominion over the speakers at any given time.
This purely mechanical solution is attractive, but what else is out there?
I imagine toggle switches and relays, etc.
?
A simple heavy-duty 4PDT toggle switch is what I use to select either my solid state receiver or my tube amp for a set of speakers.
It keeps each amp completely seperate from the other one, including the ground/minus connections.
It keeps each amp completely seperate from the other one, including the ground/minus connections.
Found this thread:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...le-a-b-c-switch-design-considerations.389692/
which makes me think I probably found a new rabbit hole
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...le-a-b-c-switch-design-considerations.389692/
which makes me think I probably found a new rabbit hole
A simple heavy-duty 4PDT toggle switch is what I use to select either my solid state receiver or my tube amp for a set of speakers.
It keeps each amp completely seperate from the other one, including the ground/minus connections.
How do you ensure your amps always have a load on them?
I mean even during the switching.
My amps are not affected by the switching.
They don't "always" require a load on them.
nice!
another relevant thread: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/tube-amp-with-no-spk-load.392468/
A simple solution to preventing amps that do not tolerate not having speakers connected is...
Wait for it!.........................
Switch the amps while they are turned off! 🙄
Wait for it!.........................
Switch the amps while they are turned off! 🙄
another relevant thread: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/tube-amp-with-no-spk-load.392468/
Add a resistor across the tube amp output is a good insurance to prevent damage if the speaker disconnected accidentally.
ElArte, you may find this thread at audiokarma.org interesting.
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A simple solution to preventing amps that do not tolerate not having speakers connected is...
Wait for it!.........................
Switch the amps while they are turned off! 🙄
Of course, that makes sense. Still, I think most people interested in these things are looking for protection in the event of a brain fart.
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