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Hi Mike.

Sorry for not being clear. Ok, closed loop distortion vs. VAS loading R. Distortion does not change until R becomes small enough to impact 10KHZ gain and then lower order harmonic distortion increases ( in proportion to the gain loss) and higher order harmonics remain roughly unchanged. As gain progressively drops, more harmonics increase. No matter how I look at it, distortion with VAS loading gets worse when the gain drops at the frequency being tested. Total distortion is lowest when OL gain is highest.

Bill
 
wwood said:
Hi Mike.

Sorry for not being clear. Ok, closed loop distortion vs. VAS loading R. Distortion does not change until R becomes small enough to impact 10KHZ gain and then lower order harmonic distortion increases ( in proportion to the gain loss) and higher order harmonics remain roughly unchanged. As gain progressively drops, more harmonics increase. No matter how I look at it, distortion with VAS loading gets worse when the gain drops at the frequency being tested. Total distortion is lowest when OL gain is highest.

Bill


My findings precisely:

mikeks said:

If the second stage's output is provided with a sufficiently small shunt resistance to ground, so that the amplifier's foward-path half-power bandwidth is of the order of 20KHz, THD+N is consistently found to deteriorate.
 
Max gain is about 133 dB and gain at 10KHz is about 103dB. Total VAS loading of 65K drops gain to 103dB from <1Hz to 10KHz. Anything smaller than 65k and 10KHz distortion starts to rise ..... lower order harmonics first. At 35k total VAS loading the amplifer is flat from <1Hz to 20KHz and there is significant second and third harmonic increase at 10KHZ. I did not check other frequencies to see what was hapening. If lower order distortions are significantly increasing, then maybe that is why it sounds good.

Bill
 
Hello,

I discovered your design today and did you know it looks quite a french design from quite a long time ago called "Zenquito".

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jm.plantefeve/sche.html

I didn't dissect the values of the components but it's a similar global scheme.

Some on this forum complained about the sound of the Zenquito but I always loved it, relaxed and not overly analytical in the bad sense of the term. Yours must sound quite good too.
 
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