Can it be done?
My cd changer does not have a "record" function.
So how can I record onto cd from an L.P.?
or some other alternative?
My cd changer does not have a "record" function.
So how can I record onto cd from an L.P.?
or some other alternative?
You're much better off with a digital download, like Amazon, iTunes, etc. Most LP turntables work so poorly that the CD sounds as good or better.
Or, you can duplicate a CD from the library with your PC on a blank CD-R. That's even legal if you own the LP already.
O.K. I think I see your point.How about copying the L.P. onto the laptop and then to a cd.
As noted here:How to Change Your Records Into CDs: 11 Steps (with Pictures)
As noted here:How to Change Your Records Into CDs: 11 Steps (with Pictures)
If you have an LP that is not available in some other format, you'd have to play it through a phono preamp to record it.
That's a good how-to guide, but it's a lot of trouble to do all this. Are you trying to record a lot of LPs, or just a few?
True.It seems like a lot of trouble.I would like to record maybe a dozen jazz albums but after thinking it through I see your point.Just because it can be done does not mean it is cost effective at all.Maybe the money is better spent elsewhere.
Thank you rayma.
Thank you rayma.
Where's the difficulty ?
Despite the different mode of how sound is originated and listened ( all analogue chain Vs mixed digital/analogue), there's no way of making it wrong: you'd just use the same computer that you use now when you're on internet.
Just set 16 bit/ 44 kHz or whatever quantization you like and the Cd editor program makes the rest.
The money...where's the problem ? An empty cd costs about 0.30 $, probably the first ones will be ruined due to something ( it...burns !! )
Despite the different mode of how sound is originated and listened ( all analogue chain Vs mixed digital/analogue), there's no way of making it wrong: you'd just use the same computer that you use now when you're on internet.
Just set 16 bit/ 44 kHz or whatever quantization you like and the Cd editor program makes the rest.
The money...where's the problem ? An empty cd costs about 0.30 $, probably the first ones will be ruined due to something ( it...burns !! )
I've copied a few special LPs, but having 15,000 of them, it's just not in the cards for me.
What does it do ? Digital RIAA eq ? I read that you have to install Audacity...well, I knew it. Does it remove clicks and pops ? And how ?
I remember I did it manually two or three times because I didn't like the automated process.
I remember I did it manually two or three times because I didn't like the automated process.
As far as I know, it doesn not use Audacity. Software is included, a LP frecorder and a LP ripper programs. There is optional eq, noise (tick pop) removal. I haven't used it a lot, but use it in a relatively simple manner. Not having used any other options as far as I know, it seems to work ok. I have not tried to do line input to the computer using plain windows software. Check the Xitel web site.
As far as RIAA, that's already been handled in the receiver or preamp.
As far as RIAA, that's already been handled in the receiver or preamp.
I don't see the difficulty if you can record anything on the PC. Yes it requires Audacity or equivalent free program to digitize. My op system provider (Ubuntu) supplies it as a free download. Yes it requires a CD burner utility, which is supplied by my linux operating system. Yes it requires a PC CD burner, which is available for $5 typically at Salvation Army resale or many computer repair shops. $10 for DVD burners. Yes the LP has to go through a Preamp or RIAA mixer. the ouput of my preamp is standard 1.6 VAC, which fits nicely into the line level input of the PC. CD's are portable, LP's and PC's are not. Laptops and notebook computers require $$$ brand specific batteries every 5 years, plus $80 op system updates yearly if you're addicted to Windows. CD players take $4 in AA batteries. My CD player is 24 years old and still works fine, no software maintenance required. Don't talk to me about phones, $$ a month and a new one every year seem to be standard, that is an addiction I haven't begun to contract. The one finger eyes glued to the screen phone op system is running away from my skill set as fast as possible. $$ more a month if you subscribe to a music service like my physician friend who has thrown all his media away.
Many of the downloads of old media or performance I've tried sound like **** compared to my home system. People that clutter up the internet services with cell phone recordings are related to the ones that empty their ashtrays on your lawn. If you took care of your LP's they don't have a lot of hiss and pops on them. I did. LP's that are dusty, you can wash them with soap and water.
The biggest barrier technically is the 40' 1/8 phono plug to twin RCA plug cable to reach from the record area to the PC area. You have to make that, they don't sell them. Cat 5 cable is a nice source of twisted pair cable, one sees ends of rolls in the trash sometimes. I've got other twisted pair cable left over from geophysical project surplus 40 years ago.
Many of the downloads of old media or performance I've tried sound like **** compared to my home system. People that clutter up the internet services with cell phone recordings are related to the ones that empty their ashtrays on your lawn. If you took care of your LP's they don't have a lot of hiss and pops on them. I did. LP's that are dusty, you can wash them with soap and water.
The biggest barrier technically is the 40' 1/8 phono plug to twin RCA plug cable to reach from the record area to the PC area. You have to make that, they don't sell them. Cat 5 cable is a nice source of twisted pair cable, one sees ends of rolls in the trash sometimes. I've got other twisted pair cable left over from geophysical project surplus 40 years ago.
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I have done quite a few of my favorite LP's that were never released on CD. I used the computer sound card as the digitizer and Steinberg's "Clean" software to remove some of the background noise, clicks/pops. It works quite well IMO.
I"ve done a couple with a friend and it really is that easy. There are some phono stages that have a USB output and you just use that to link up to your computer, where you will download it into the program and you are good to go. Maybe you could buy a used Bellari phono stage with USB and then resell it. Or you could work a deal with a local store to borrow their Demo and pay them for it. It's only 12 albums so maybe you can work out something with them. If you can find them on a high rez download, I'd probably go that route also, but if they are special albums, then I'm sure you'll chose which way works best for you.
As for the person who said that there aren't good TT's out there (or however it was phrased), you are very wrong. I am selling a great Rotel TT with a top of the line Van den Hul MM cart that is perfect for most folks to use as a source and my current Basis table with Benz cart is sooooooo much better sounding than digital (and I've heard 20k plus digital). If I used my current system with a top of the line phono to USB I'm sure I would have great downloads. Good luck in your choice.
As for the person who said that there aren't good TT's out there (or however it was phrased), you are very wrong. I am selling a great Rotel TT with a top of the line Van den Hul MM cart that is perfect for most folks to use as a source and my current Basis table with Benz cart is sooooooo much better sounding than digital (and I've heard 20k plus digital). If I used my current system with a top of the line phono to USB I'm sure I would have great downloads. Good luck in your choice.
If you are talking about vintage jazz, some of the reissued versions on CD can be much better than the original LP versions.
This is the golden age of reissued jazz. Try some of these CD versions of your own LPs and see.
It is not necessary to pay big $ for great performance.
As a DIY project you can build your own, assuming that you have the skills. I suggest a TI PCM2902B or C, and look at the LSK489 dual jfet app note written by Bob Cordell for Linear Systems, for the phono design ideas, esp fig 7, which uses the LM4562.
If you can not get the LSK489, I'd sub a matched set (IDSS graded) of NXP BF862 (cheaper solution).
The PCM2902B is not a stellar ADC but it functions very well for a 16-bit converter. I followed the app notes and evaluation pcb, work flawless using MS XP.
Yes I agree, a re-mastered, high res digital CD, can out perform a LP sonically.
As a comparison, I have PF DSOM in Import LP, CD & my only SACD. The SACD has the best sonics IMO.
As a DIY project you can build your own, assuming that you have the skills. I suggest a TI PCM2902B or C, and look at the LSK489 dual jfet app note written by Bob Cordell for Linear Systems, for the phono design ideas, esp fig 7, which uses the LM4562.
If you can not get the LSK489, I'd sub a matched set (IDSS graded) of NXP BF862 (cheaper solution).
The PCM2902B is not a stellar ADC but it functions very well for a 16-bit converter. I followed the app notes and evaluation pcb, work flawless using MS XP.
Yes I agree, a re-mastered, high res digital CD, can out perform a LP sonically.
As a comparison, I have PF DSOM in Import LP, CD & my only SACD. The SACD has the best sonics IMO.
Guys, I know it's an age old debate, however if you have a very high resolution system and an ultrasonic cleaned record, the record will win out nearly every time. Personally, I've yet to hear anything from CD resolution down sound as good as the vinyl counterpart that I've done this eval with. I know it's MY ears and all, however everyone in the room always agrees . Even when we play the newer, higher resolution stuff the CD may go a bit lower, but the presence and sound stage has been better with vinyl. I realize I'm talking about expensive equipment, but overall the medium is still better. We are starting to get to the point where some chips are nearly as good if used properly. JMHO and I do respect those of you who disagree, but I do these evals often.
I had an experience that I'll share. Gustaf Holst...The Planets. I found an Angel 45rpm lp. Used, but it VG conditon. Andre Previn conducting. Regretably not the same orchestra, but at least the same conductor. And the winner was...the CD.
Just that much better.
Played on a fair system when all things are considered, and I can provide details if someone is curious.
Just that much better.
Played on a fair system when all things are considered, and I can provide details if someone is curious.
I've burned a few DVD audio discs from LPs, using my older iMac and a few other things I had on hand. While the basic digitizing is easy once you're set up, the hard part was separating the songs, putting in the tracks, naming them, etc... It's just a laborious process. Not difficult, just a long slog. And also, you are doing the vinyl part of the process real time, so this takes a lot of hours to do even a few. The 24/96 sounds pretty much like the original.
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Soundcards and stuff is rather straight forward, but what is the current lead in ripping and indexing software? Free, if possible.. 🙂
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