The Chinese “designers” never sleep.
Ok, I understand this very well, but there are some schematics that are published here I thought they are Ok to begin with.
Kamskoma
Ok, I understand this very well, but there are some schematics that are published here I thought they are Ok to begin with.
Kamskoma
I think that the initial point was that the presumption was made that 'dressing up' made going to a live musical event was a special occasion that might effect our subjective judgement of the actual quality of the sound. Of course, ANYTHING can effect anyone in any situation. For example, a little alcohol or something stronger could make the experience at home, even more interesting, for example.
However, the basic idea of making hi fi equipment to the highest quality, IS to be able to reproduce what was originally a live event as close to possible, the same experience at home.
This is really the challenge, and usually each of us has 'forgiven' the flaws in our own hi fi equipment, so that each of us may be comfortable with our own system, yet an outsider coming in to listen may not think much of the sound. It is rare when this is not so, but it does happen. I have heard very carefully set up systems costing over $200,000 where the learning curve is very quick for an outsider, but they are rare.
One occasion for me was with Dave Wilson, when he lived in California about 25 years ago.
Once a month, Dave would invite us to a listening session at his home. WOW! Those properly set up WAMM's, my JC-80 preamp, etc with the best vinyl playback would really knock me out.
I have heard a few other set ups of similar quality, however not my own.
However, the basic idea of making hi fi equipment to the highest quality, IS to be able to reproduce what was originally a live event as close to possible, the same experience at home.
This is really the challenge, and usually each of us has 'forgiven' the flaws in our own hi fi equipment, so that each of us may be comfortable with our own system, yet an outsider coming in to listen may not think much of the sound. It is rare when this is not so, but it does happen. I have heard very carefully set up systems costing over $200,000 where the learning curve is very quick for an outsider, but they are rare.
One occasion for me was with Dave Wilson, when he lived in California about 25 years ago.
Once a month, Dave would invite us to a listening session at his home. WOW! Those properly set up WAMM's, my JC-80 preamp, etc with the best vinyl playback would really knock me out.
I have heard a few other set ups of similar quality, however not my own.
John
Maybe people don’t want to talk about dressing up.
The comparison of acoustical live music vs recorded sounds that will take place at CES this week is interesting, but a lot will depend on how the recording is done.
Stinius
Maybe people don’t want to talk about dressing up.
The comparison of acoustical live music vs recorded sounds that will take place at CES this week is interesting, but a lot will depend on how the recording is done.
Stinius
stinius said:John
Maybe people don’t want to talk about dressing up.
The comparison of acoustical live music vs recorded sounds that will take place at CES this week is interesting, but a lot will depend on how the recording is done.
Stinius
Ahhh! Wish I could be there....
Indeed, a lot depends on how the recording is done. Very often the mixing, balancing, positioning etc is done such that the sound scape is very different from the live event. I find it difficult in such a situation to judge the sound difference.
Have fun!
Jan Didden
John
Since it seems like you prefer to talk about getting dressed up.
In the 80’s after a concert we should go out and have a nice dinner, the management had ordered tables at a restaurant and we went to the hotel and changed clothes.
Everybody did so, but not the artist; he came as he always did.
They wouldn’t let him in because he was wearing jeans, we tried to tell the man in the door that the artist always wear jeans, but no way they wouldn’t let him in.
Isn’t it stupid with those dressing codes?
He was “The man in black” Another JC
Stinius
Since it seems like you prefer to talk about getting dressed up.
In the 80’s after a concert we should go out and have a nice dinner, the management had ordered tables at a restaurant and we went to the hotel and changed clothes.
Everybody did so, but not the artist; he came as he always did.
They wouldn’t let him in because he was wearing jeans, we tried to tell the man in the door that the artist always wear jeans, but no way they wouldn’t let him in.
Isn’t it stupid with those dressing codes?
He was “The man in black” Another JC
Stinius
vuki said:One more nice thing about jazz concerts is that you can always come dressed as you like. 🙂
vuki
I agree so much.
I have worked with a lot of Jazz artists, and one of the tours that I remember that I enjoyed very much was a tour with Hermeto Pascoal e Grupo. The whole band was multi-instumentualists so they changed instruments all the time and the percussion “store” included everything fom teapots to engineparts.
Stinius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeto_Pascoal
vuki said:One more nice thing about jazz concerts is that you can always come dressed as you like. 🙂
I was under the impression that Coltrane insisted on black tie for all performers, period, even in 101 degree weather.
scott wurcer said:
I was under the impression that Coltrane insisted on black tie for all performers, period, even in 101 degree weather.
Scott
I don’t think you can count the audience as a part of the performers, but anyway a nice try and you are the master so you are probably right.
Stinius
stinius said:
Scott
I don’t think you can count the audience as a part of the performers, but anyway a nice try and you are the master so you are probably right.
Stinius
That is true, I don't think he would have thought much of stage diving or crowd surfing either.
scott wurcer said:
That is true, I don't think he would have thought much of stage diving or crowd surfing either.
As the master you are I must say I think you are right, no stage divind or crowd surfing.

Stinius
stinius said:
Yes.
Stinius [/QUOTE
A major recording star denied entry from any restaurant based on dress today would be unimaginable.
scott wurcer said:stinius said:
Yes.
Stinius [/QUOTE
A major recording star denied entry from any restaurant based on dress today would be unimaginable.
Scott
Yes you are right, master.
What I was talking about was back in the 80’s.
And it really happened.
It was meant to visualize how stupid that “dress up” thing was.
Trust yourself, be who you are, ignore the fools, in the end you will win. (And be the master)
Stinius
stinius said:
Scott
Yes you are right, master.
What I was talking about was back in the 80’s.
And it really happened.
It was meant to visualize how stupid that “dress up” thing was.
Trust yourself, be who you are, ignore the fools, in the end you will win. (And be the master)
Stinius
I'm glad this amuses you so much, good for you, be happy, whatever.
Being busy, I have only just read up to about 5-6 pages ago...
Not good.
I'd like to remind all those on here that are both very smart, and very well educated, especially those who are professionally in the field of electronic engineering or other engineering that:
A) this is a forum for DIY hobbyists - not one for qualified, degree'd engineers only
B) people here usually want to learn, and should not be shot through with holes like a WWII plane being shot out of the sky if they say things that are imperfect in any regard or anyone's opinion
C) no one, no matter how smart, well trained, is perfect or has not made a blunder of some sort at some time, maybe even recently
D) some people on here might be a whole heck of a lot more accomplished in some other field than you are in electronics
Quite frankly I fail to understand the purpose or intent of some of the posts that I read back a few pages.
_-_-bear
Not good.
I'd like to remind all those on here that are both very smart, and very well educated, especially those who are professionally in the field of electronic engineering or other engineering that:
A) this is a forum for DIY hobbyists - not one for qualified, degree'd engineers only
B) people here usually want to learn, and should not be shot through with holes like a WWII plane being shot out of the sky if they say things that are imperfect in any regard or anyone's opinion
C) no one, no matter how smart, well trained, is perfect or has not made a blunder of some sort at some time, maybe even recently
D) some people on here might be a whole heck of a lot more accomplished in some other field than you are in electronics
Quite frankly I fail to understand the purpose or intent of some of the posts that I read back a few pages.
_-_-bear
bear said:Quite frankly I fail to understand the purpose or intent of some of the posts that I read back a few pages.
To me it's obvious. There are certain people here who have negligible understanding of electronics, and yet project an attitude of superiority, essentially an Orwellian "ignorance is strength" philosophy. When it's finally revealed that they know, in effect, nothing, then they get what's coming to them. There's a lot of it going on, and people who object to how they are treated are enabling them, as you are here.
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