John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier

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PMA said:
double box shielding

Pavel,

anyone can put an extra extruded aluminum box inside a case, + close to any drugstore sells them.
Even ones with 1/4" wall thickness.

The sandwich core alloy in my post is not aluminum but 1/8" nickel-iron plate, seams filled with high content silver epoxy.
Low nickel-iron plate (<50% Ni) is much cheaper than Mu metal and fairly easy to obtain.
Talking preamps, this is a preamp thread afair.
 
jacco vermeulen said:


Pavel,

anyone can put an extra extruded aluminum box inside a case, + close to any drugstore sells them.
Even ones with 1/4" wall thickness.

The sandwich core alloy in my post is not aluminum but 1/8" nickel-iron plate, seams filled with high content silver epoxy.
Low nickel-iron plate (<50% Ni) is much cheaper than Mu metal and fairly easy to obtain.
Talking preamps, this is a preamp thread afair.

My experience with any kind of magnetic materials for the enclosures was always very, very poor. The non-linear changes in the PCB traces impedance in the presence of high permeability materials makes the amp behaviour hard to predict and control.

The mutual inductance between the power rails and the signal rails induces even order harmonics, while this effect induces odd order harmonics. Overall, it's much worse in power amplifiers, but I was able to measure it in preamps as well. Any external magnetic field shielding positive impact is masked by these nasty problems.

I'm not saying it's audible, but it's just there and it can easily be minimized by using non magnetic materials for the enclosures. There are a few articles in the AES database on this topic.
 
syn08 said:


My experience with any kind of magnetic materials for the enclosures was always very, very poor. The non-linear changes in the PCB traces impedance in the presence of high permeability materials ....

Exactly. The system I showed works closer than 1m from conductor with up to 100kArms/50Hz steady state, and fast HV transients during circuit breaking. The customer at first insisted on magnetic material. Different samples were produced, but every magnetic material had saturated, resulting in worse interference S/N ratio. I knew that, as I have been working in this field for more than 25 years. But the customer had to be convinced by experiment, not by explanation .....
 
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