John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part IV

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People have been reporting that their hifi sounds better late at night when the voltage is usually at its highest for 40+ years. Of course this has never been correlated in any way. Personally I reckon its as much to do with being relaxed and a lower noise floor in the environment.

Silly guy...it's when the kids are in bed..and you have a glass of wine in your hand..😀

Hey, speakin of kids, how is your daughter doing? Where she working now?
jn
 
According to this source, which also quotes GB Pat. 815,978 the diaphragm was coated on both sides:
The Quad ESL - FAQs

The Quad ESL - Nylon .vs. Graphite

That was how things went for the ESL57 that came before the ESL63 in 1981.
As far as I know, and from what I have seen in Germany where an official Quad repair shop is, foil for the ESL63 is only coated on one side, exactly for the reason as mentioned in your second link.
"if each side of the membrane does not have a similar resistance (coated both sides) then there will be an imbalance between Ia and Ib on each side and this will contribute to any non-linearities in the speaker, but it will also affect the distortion performance, point-to-point.".

Hans
 
People have been reporting that their hifi sounds better late at night when the voltage is usually at its highest for 40+ years. Of course this has never been correlated in any way. Personally I reckon its as much to do with being relaxed and a lower noise floor in the environment.
I find when it's quieter late at night I can keep edging the volume down as my ears adjust and it seems I hear more, could be both my ears and speakers distorting less. I think it was Richard posted something about IMD being much less below approx 80dB?
 
That was how things went for the ESL57 that came before the ESL63 in 1981.
As far as I know, and from what I have seen in Germany where an official Quad repair shop is, foil for the ESL63 is only coated on one side, exactly for the reason as mentioned in your second link.
"if each side of the membrane does not have a similar resistance (coated both sides) then there will be an imbalance between Ia and Ib on each side and this will contribute to any non-linearities in the speaker, but it will also affect the distortion performance, point-to-point.".

Hans

I'd say it is hard to imagine that a well done (but slightly to mildly non-equal) coating on both sides could introduce a bigger imbalance than the non-coating on one side.
 
I'd say it is hard to imagine that a well done (but slightly to mildly non-equal) coating on both sides could introduce a bigger imbalance than the non-coating on one side.

Agreed.
Without any coating providing charge mobility, the only way for the second current is through the film. Since the film is Epsilon r 3, a gap of 2500 microns with epsilon R one will dominate the capacitive currents.

jn
 
The resemblance of recent Markw4's and Jakob(#)'s usual posts are hard to shrug off. Same playbook alright, deflect, divert, strawman, smoke & mirrors... etc for the business interest.
The resemblance of all the post of Mr. Lmdbt is hard to shrug off. Same personal attacks, same harassments, same crazy paranoia. In loop, endlessly.
What kind of pleasure do-you take at it ?
Don't you have something more productive to do in your life than to bite the postmen and the tires of the cars ?
 
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If you have a real world example and real evidence, not just products of your vivid imagination, I'm all ears ...err,um...eyes and will of course address it accordingly.
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you don't know why some people hear small effects,
How do you know if they really hear small effects or just think they do? And where are those people?

Is this also where he makes the FR recordings of louspeakers ?
I hope not, unless his intent is to show what the typical audiophile's room acoustics is like.
 
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Everytime I hear a difference I undo it and go back/forth several times verifying and sometimes taking days or even weeks, then after verification I try to figure out a reason which is fairly difficult sometimes, and from the looks of it even if had decent measuring equipment it seems as though these subtle differences aren’t going to show up......at least with anything I could afford to measure with.

Edit.... and just to be clear all changes are not ‘better’ in fact most are worse or indifferent but knowing what causes the difference is important to me.
 
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I'd say it is hard to imagine that a well done (but slightly to mildly non-equal) coating on both sides could introduce a bigger imbalance than the non-coating on one side.

In thinking the numbers, the sheet resistivity being bandied about is 10e+12 ohms per square.

The charge resistor in richard's schematic is 10 meg.

How imbalanced can the two currents Ia and Ib ever be? The resistivity of the center film is roughly 5 orders of magnitude higher than 10 meg.

What is the current through the audio transformer secondary?

jn
 
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