I appear to have a better idea of what you are talking about that you have about what I am talking about!
My point was that your idea of 'realistic' and mine are completely different. The difference is I have accepted that, for music in a natural acoustic (my reference) 2 channels is gaslight. It fails at the first hurdle. You want a marshall 4by12 to sound like its in your room. This is not on my priority list as I like to be a safe distance from those...
There is little commonality in the discussion and even less attempt to reach that. So it's doomed to continue to chase its tail.
I need a double blind test for that in case the first one falls off!😀
Nah.....the dynamics just aren’t there with the antique stuff.
As much as I enjoy early blues it just doesn’t apply.
I think the recording quality has to be there from the start......I usually don’t even bother listening to junk recordings although I do have a seperate playlist of music I like that wasn’t well recorded.....I mainly listen to that for low level background stuff.
Mine is somewhere between those!
But that’s ok I’m not here to argue anyway 🙂
So we aren't even on the same channel, junk recordings right blah blah woof woof.
Hey, it is what it is; poorly recorded music sounds ........poorly (for lack of better term)
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I’ve not gotten into my old recordings with the newer system yet.....I’ve got the Robert Johnson book set and Bessie Smith, etc...... just haven’t got there yet.
But the recordings of those times were limited even though some sound decent they hardly sound correct.
Why can’t you be interested in both Scott?
Many fine musicians go out of their way to make a good recording.
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Something that interests me is the way that it's technically easier to make quality recordings than it is to make quality playbacks, and I think we are so lucky, because some of those old recordings sound better now on modern equipment than they ever did. By the mid 50s they could record incredibly well.
> You're simply interested in the sound not the music.
I would venture that the majority do not differentiate the two .
I would venture that the majority do not differentiate the two .
Are they not the same? They are if better sound quality convey the music in a more meaningful and profound way to the listener. I have a different expectation when listening while going for a walk via phones and then later hearing the same at home on my rather ambitious system. The gulf is vast, even if both have their places.
It seems to be a matter of perspective, many times on this forum I've heard people say that as their systems have got better they've become less tolerant of poor recordings, I struggle to understand this, because for me the opposite is true.
Is that all? You don't have them all in LP/8-track/CD/HD Files?
I don't, but I have to admit over the years I have been quite a fan, saw him 20+ times between 1973 and 1981. Once seeing his bands perform you were spoiled, they were laser precise and incredible. Although his was such a unique outspoken voice, he could be a bit misogynistic, I guess he couldn't totally escape being a product of the times he grew up in. I did a couple of 3-hour memorial radio shows, and if you are a glutton for punishment PM me.
Howie
As long as you don’t expect it to sound like a new recording it’s all good.....I wouldn’t use an inferior recording to dial a system unless that was the main objective.
A good revealing system, reveals all .....good,bad, and ugly.
By the 50’s things started improving drastically.....muddy waters ‘folk singer’ recorded in ‘64 is awesome.
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Is it really easier to make a good recording than good playback, though? I'm not sure on this. Mic inputs or any high gain input should perform worse than a line-level output circuit near unity gain. I suppose it matters if we are talking digital or vinyl. For digital, the ADC performance is not as good as the DAC performance when comparing similarly priced parts as well.
I find this to be one of the things that make no sense to me; people will complain about the sound of op-amps in a preamp while praising their favorite design... which has been tested by playing back a recording that's been passed through dozens of NE5532s or worse in production.
"Take five", of Dave brubeck, recorded in 1959, is one of the most beautifully recorded album I know. Even today.
In confidence, it is this album that gave-me the desire to build my fist amplifier in kit (a tube one) at the age of 15.
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