As i'm one of the guys here to "claim" to has been a sound engineer, not pretending to be any kind of "word class" (that has no meaning), I can take this attack as a personal one.
So, I have a question. Max had just offered us to compare files. I had no ideas about what was behind (and I don't care). I had took some time to listen to his files.
I am like St' thomas, I believe in what i see.
Did-you made the same before to get to a conclusion ?
Know better what ? Sometimes, I had bought mike tube preamps for my studio because I liked their character, and not bought others that measured a lot better but sounded average. And what ? Know better what ? And how can-you know what somebody, trying to be polite and gentle can think, behind his polite and gentle smile ?
much ado about nothing...If 10 guys hear some difference between two systems , that is quality.If 5 out of 10 guys feel that one system is better than another and all the other 5 are undecided then there's no relevant difference between the two systems.
Markw4, there is more to listening for differences than just added distortion. There is the active removal of some of it on occasion that makes even a 'negative' difference. At least it happened to me between 20-25 years ago regarding one of the first of Bybee's QP devices.
I was asked by my employer (Parasound) to test a Bybee device, actually an assembly looking much like a loaf of bread with AC connectors on each end, one for a line cord to the wall, one for connection to the audio equipment.
I didn't know Jack Bybee, even through reputation at the time. I just was told that there might be something here that might be useful. I tested it for distortion, frequency response, transient response, capacitance, inductance, etc. I could find little added to the power line more than the line cords (typical) themselves. I finally gave up and decided that it was probably a fake. But then, I had not TRIED LISTENING to the device in my audio system.
So, I got one of my Vendetta phono preamps with a quality MC phono cartridge, not a cheap MM like a Shure or something similar. I plugged it into a STAX tube-fet headphone amp with minimal cap coupling, with STAX Lamda Pro headphones. This was then and still my most revealing listening apparatus. THEN, I heard what the Bybee did, with music that I knew well. It made the sound just more revealing and natural. Only then did I go out of my way to meet Jack Bybee.
Much later, I went to lunch with Jack Bybee, you know, Hamburgers, at a local place, when Jack said that he wanted to make a 'cold call' stop at a nearby audio shop. I had met these people once or twice, and I decided to go along. Jack Bybee brought out one of the devices that was virtually identical to the device that I had tested, and offered to let the audio store plug it into their main system. First we listened without the Bybee, and the sound was pretty good, balanced, and well presented. THEN, Jack put the Bybee in the AC line, and the sound went 'dead', rolled off, or something. Lacking the balance that the audio system originally had. Jack promptly removed the device and we left. It was amazing, how did this happen? Come on, explain to me what happened?
That is when I found the addition of a Bybee to detract from the sound quality. Most of the time, it smoothed it out, taking away some electronic 'garbage'. At this hi fi store, the Bybee unbalanced the sound quality by removing some 'garbage' that was being balanced against by skillful set-up and component selection. If anything, I would compare the Bybee to a 'noise gate' rather than anything else. Yet, it seems impossible to measure this effect. Keeping an open mind, promotes progress.
I was asked by my employer (Parasound) to test a Bybee device, actually an assembly looking much like a loaf of bread with AC connectors on each end, one for a line cord to the wall, one for connection to the audio equipment.
I didn't know Jack Bybee, even through reputation at the time. I just was told that there might be something here that might be useful. I tested it for distortion, frequency response, transient response, capacitance, inductance, etc. I could find little added to the power line more than the line cords (typical) themselves. I finally gave up and decided that it was probably a fake. But then, I had not TRIED LISTENING to the device in my audio system.
So, I got one of my Vendetta phono preamps with a quality MC phono cartridge, not a cheap MM like a Shure or something similar. I plugged it into a STAX tube-fet headphone amp with minimal cap coupling, with STAX Lamda Pro headphones. This was then and still my most revealing listening apparatus. THEN, I heard what the Bybee did, with music that I knew well. It made the sound just more revealing and natural. Only then did I go out of my way to meet Jack Bybee.
Much later, I went to lunch with Jack Bybee, you know, Hamburgers, at a local place, when Jack said that he wanted to make a 'cold call' stop at a nearby audio shop. I had met these people once or twice, and I decided to go along. Jack Bybee brought out one of the devices that was virtually identical to the device that I had tested, and offered to let the audio store plug it into their main system. First we listened without the Bybee, and the sound was pretty good, balanced, and well presented. THEN, Jack put the Bybee in the AC line, and the sound went 'dead', rolled off, or something. Lacking the balance that the audio system originally had. Jack promptly removed the device and we left. It was amazing, how did this happen? Come on, explain to me what happened?
That is when I found the addition of a Bybee to detract from the sound quality. Most of the time, it smoothed it out, taking away some electronic 'garbage'. At this hi fi store, the Bybee unbalanced the sound quality by removing some 'garbage' that was being balanced against by skillful set-up and component selection. If anything, I would compare the Bybee to a 'noise gate' rather than anything else. Yet, it seems impossible to measure this effect. Keeping an open mind, promotes progress.
Would you say you are more like a hedgehog or a fox, using Tetlock's terminology? Why Is It So Hard to Predict the Future? - The Atlantic
Easy to forget (me being a youth and all that) by the time I discovered their existance they were all with SPUs. However I will not know crystal carts as some very good ones were produced. I hate to think what the new price of a 301 was compared to an average salary back when they were new.
I'm having trouble understanding how the LF HCs react quickly to a fast attack. I've looked at the links and elsewhere, for example Basilar membrane - Wikipedia
also from here Temporal envelope and fine structure - Wikipedia
"Many sounds in everyday life, including speech and music, are broadband; the frequency components spread over a wide range and there is no well-defined way to represent the signal in terms of ENVp and TFSp. However, in a normally functioning cochlea, complex broadband signals are decomposed by the filtering on the basilar membrane (BM) within the cochlea into a series of narrowband signals.[9] Therefore, the waveform at each place on the BM can be considered as an envelope (ENVBM) superimposed on a more rapidly oscillating carrier, the temporal fine structure (TFSBM).[10] The ENVBM and TFSBM depend on the place along the BM. At the apical end, which is tuned to low (audio) frequencies, ENVBM and TFSBM vary relatively slowly with time, while at the basal end, which is tuned to high frequencies, both ENVBM and TFSBM vary more rapidly with time."
Can anyone help? 😕
Don’t know about foxes and hedgehogs, but I would wager every penny I have that BQPs will be in the snake oil dustbin of history once their pitchman passes.
Maybe he’ll take his magical quantum technology to the grave. Such a big loss to humanity, just imagine what could have been accomplished if he had used such groundbreaking quantum technology in science or medicine instead of selling lumps of epoxy to fools with more money than sense. We will have to quietly suffer and wonder what could have been.
The thing is, there are just enough gullible "open minded" people to keep his business going while he is around.
There you go - a fundamental down at 30 or 40 Hz with HF components 2 orders of magnitude higher.
Of course, I am a 'fox'. AND it is difficult to remain so, the more I get book-learning in my field. I have to force myself to keep open-minded about audio 'tweaks' because they often defy my traditional reasoning. BUT I have to, or miss something important. Yes, I have had a few 'duds' or disappointments in this area, but mostly I have heard differences, and I remain open to those who also hear them, usually audio dealers or other audiophiles. What works is the key!
He's moved on to spintronics, the gullible audio reviewers just suck it up it's stunning. What an insult to anyone with a brain. ByBeeTech Quantum Signal Enhancer
Scott did I miss something in physics class? What's this bit about the flow of protons in the circuit board? I must have been asleep that day.
Oh, I have to catch up a whole weekend. I'm sure I'm not the only one who assumes to your favor that you wanted to write "lies". Those little typos happen now and then, not a big deal. It's not that we want him dead, may he live long and even prosper, if he manages to find a honorable source of income.
best regards,
Gerhard
It's still not OK. As they say, two wrongs don't make a right.
What do you mean gullible? 😡 You are insulting those with open mindedness. You see, this is the kind of post that makes some members to complain about, hostility, belittling... & etc.
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I'll have a go & hope S&M will correct my mistakes.
Remember what we are talking about is bass note plucks, hence a limited frequency range, not a broadband signal.
The attack portion of the bass note pluck sound is the initial ramp up so the LF position on the basilar membrane will vibrate at that position causing the HCs to send nerve impulses along the auditory pathway.
I think what S&M means is that a fast attack will result in the specific LF area vibrating at an earlier time than would happen with a slow attack?
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