Exactly. Good musicians with nice sounding instruments do not require as much 'torture' than the contrary. And we take as much as possible care to do not make too much mistakes, listening with various speakers, including the mastering room, to ensure we stay in some limits.Why? Mixes don't occur in isolation. It may be easiest to get a good result when the song is good, the arrangement is good, the orchestration is good, the performers are good, the recording equipment is good, etc. Then one only has to document the performance, not work so hard to ameliorate problems.
About the request of your interlocutor, he can find my mixes in the Tintin albums, I produced most of the Albums of Bianca Castafiore ;-)
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Exactly. Good musicians with nice sounding instruments do not require as much 'torture' than the contrary. And we take as much as possible care to do not make too much mistakes, listening with various speakers, including the mastering room, to ensure we stay in some limits.Why? Mixes don't occur in isolation. It may be easiest to get a good result when the song is good, the arrangement is good, the orchestration is good, the performers are good, the recording equipment is good, etc. Then one only has to document the performance, not work so hard to ameliorate problems.
About the request of your interlocutor, he can find my mixes in the Tintin albums, I produced most of the Albums of Bianca Castafiore ;-)
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One virtue about producing a cartoon character is that she is less likely to be difficult about the mix. Many mixes today are assembled almost note by note to accommodate the performer's insecurities about his/her playing. And where does that leave us in the pursuit of the "original sound"?
It was not so easy everyday.One virtue about producing a cartoon character is that she is less likely to be difficult about the mix.
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More we go, more "transparent" are our systems, less we need to take risks of deteriorating what you call original sound (Digital was, in a way, a good advance). I mean less torture to make them realistic (I would not say 'original', you know why* ;-)And where does that leave us in the pursuit of the "original sound"?
In the same time, I wonder why modern producers in pop music try less and less to mimic any kind of virtual "reality". (RAP, DJs etc.)
*The guitarist that come with a Gibson and ask: "Can-you make me a Mark Knofler sound ?" or the drummer in his little dumped cage that they want to sound in the Hollywood Bowl.
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... a betrayal.
Because the only way to reproduce at home what the creators wanted to do in the studio would be to have at home a system with exactly the same flaws as the one used during the creation process.
No, all the way to the speaker you need to be completely transparent - then apply the same room / speaker as the creator used. Which is essentially impossible, but any sound modification added before the room speaker is only a bad thing.
Mmm, what about the amplifier? Although, of course, transparent amps are everywhere, relatively speaking 🙂
...any sound modification added before the room speaker is only a bad thing.
It is an impure thing, not necessarily bad to some consumers. Also, since there will be some imperfection in the reproduction chain, if it is unpleasant to some listeners is it okay to mask the unpleasantness with something that will make the music perceived as more enjoyable to most listeners?
I am thinking about or trying to understand where you would place something like Pass Labs HPA-1? I have listened to one, know some of the story of its design, etc. I think it would be fair to describe it as having a bit of pleasing low order distortion which didn't happen unintentionally.
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You mean, kinda sin that will will forgive us from entering the paradise of audiophiles ?but any sound modification added before the room speaker is only a bad thing.
But it is precisely this perverse sexual activity that gives you these audiophile pleasures that you dream to observe through transparent walls.
Not to mention that transparence exists nowhere in the universe. The intersideral space itself is totally opaque to sounds.
Don't you realize that everything in music and phonographic production is an artistic activity? A creation at every stage.
Traduttore traditore.
Our tools microphones amps etc are brushes, to draw pictures of landscapes that exists ONLY on his canvas.
And all that technology brings us is to improve the quality of the brushes and colors.
Just a question, when I was paid to dramatically change/create the sounds of the discs/ concerts that the audience listen to, doing the same thing in my own living room seems "bad" to your eyes/moral ?
Sorry, but it seems to me that you float in the space between two solar systems and that it would be prudent to check your oxygen reserves instead of calculating your trajectory with a precision of 0.00001%.
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It is an impure thing, not necessarily bad to some consumers. Also, since there will be some imperfection in the reproduction chain, if it is unpleasant to some listeners is it okay to mask the unpleasantness with something that will make the music perceived as more enjoyable to most listeners?
I am thinking about or trying to understand where you would place something like Pass Labs HPA-1? I have listened to one, know some of the story of its design, etc. I think it would be fair to describe it as having a bit of pleasing low order distortion which didn't happen unintentionally.
You miss the point. T had implied that you needed a distorted (well amp with same flaws as he said) amp to get to the same sound as was engineered. You actually need the cleanest amp possible, then the same acoustic environment... You don't want to add the amp effects twice!
So if you want to get the studio sound, keep the amp clean as possible.
I'm not saying that's possible or desirable, just commenting on what T said...
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You mean, kinda sin that will will forgive us from entering the paradise of audiophiles ?
But it is precisely this perverse sexual activity that gives you these audiophile pleasures that you dream to observe through transparent walls.
Not to mention that transparence exists nowhere in the universe. The intersideral space itself is totally opaque to sounds.
Don't you realize that everything in music and phonographic production is an artistic activity? A creation at every stage.
Traduttore traditore.
Our tools microphones amps etc are brushes, to draw pictures of landscapes that exists ONLY on his canvas.
And all that technology brings us is to improve the quality of the brushes and colors.
Just a question, when I was paid to dramatically change/create the sounds of the discs/ concerts that the audience listen to, doing the same thing in my own living room seems "bad" to your eyes/moral ?
Sorry, but it seems to me that you float in the space between two solar systems and that it would be prudent to check your oxygen reserves instead of calculating your trajectory with a precision of 0.00001%.
I don't know what's in your oxygen tanks but I suspect it's hallucinogenic. Or it's lost in translation. That makes no sense to me at all. Have fun, though! 🙂
Twice ? Explain-me why ?You miss the point. T had implied that you needed a distorted (well amp with same flaws as he said) amp to get to the same sound as was engineered. You actually need the cleanest amp possible, then the same acoustic environment... You don't want to add the amp effects twice!
The signal on your record never crossed this amp in the studio. (Only the ears of the producers on which they base their work). Anyway, I never talked about amp's distortion. We are in the 21st century.
Tip: Different amps DRIVE the same speaker in different ways.
No surprise for me. Perhaps your attachment to blind tests is the result of a difficulty in grasping the meaning of images ?That makes no sense to me at all.
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I don't think music can be compared to any other art form. Certainly not paintings, which are static. Music is fluid, it requires us to use our memory and our anticipation to make sense of it, we, the listeners, make it exist and so are part of the artistic process.
More we go, more "transparent" are our systems, less we need to take risks of deteriorating what you call original sound. I mean less torture to make them realistic (I would not say 'original', you know why* ;-)And where does that leave us in the pursuit of the "original sound"?
In the same time, I wonder why modern producers in pop music try less and less to mimic any kind of virtual "reality". (RAP, DJs etc.)
*The guitarist that come with a Gibson and ask: "Can-you make me a Mark Knofler sound ?" or the drummer in his little dumped cage that they want to sound in the Hollywood Bowl.
For the one that look at a painting, it is static in a way (while we use to explore what we look at in a mobile way.)
But, for the painter, it is an art of movement.
But, for the painter, it is an art of movement.
No surprise for me. Perhaps your attachment to blind tests is the result of a difficulty in grasping the meaning of images ?
More invented / hallucinated rubbish? Or, again, probably lost in translation. No idea where your head is at! But, continue to enjoy! 🙂
@Jakob2: yes, I wouldn't disagree with anything you wrote in your last post. The point is that once you verify claims, you can reduce the unexpected character of the event (either by using subjects who claim to be able to hear it or by training subjects to hear similar events) and its one-off character (by allowing repetition of short tracks for example).
It must start with expressing a question/hypothesis as clear as possible that the sensory experiment will address.
Finding evidence for claims on a personal/individual basis is something different than finding estimates for population parameters.
There exists a lot of knowledge about good experimental design one has only to adopt (and adapt) it for audio experiments instead of ignoring it and that will most likely raise the chance for getting correct results.
I don't think this will remove all the problems of audio testing, far from it, but to come back at the origin of the discussion, this will deal with "big" differences and confine the incertitude to "small" differences.
Meaningfull sensory tests are surprisingly complex matter if it comes to multidimensional evaluation, not least as the rating of relevance or importance is broadly subjective and therefore diverging between humans.
Because the only way to reproduce at home what the creators wanted to do in the studio would be to have at home a system with exactly the same flaws as the one used during the creation process.
I thought one would need in the home flawed system the anti-flaws, cancelling the flaws during the flawed creation process.
To show a difference? Why, what's the point? I thought I'd just helped you realise it's a waste of time (unless you are being by paid by people who need to be told what to think/believe)
How did you manage to miss/forget about what i wrote about difference tests? 🙂
I´ve writter numerous times that there is no need for difference tests (as it is often the least interesting question) and that often a paired comparison scheme would be more appropriate, because people are usually more interested in finding something better than just something different?
Despite that, yes if someone is interested in examing if a perceptable difference exists, it still needs well planned and executed sensory tests.
In a more formal development process where alteration/reformulation of products is part of the daily work and aimed for broader markets, the question for difference is an important one.
Btw, if you want to help, maybe you could help evenharmonics and syn08 to get rid of their winkers?
Both are now often only reacting to imaginery posted content not to anything actually written in this thread......
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