OHM is what we measure. For example we have ohmmeters. Ohm's law is but one manifestation of how we use the term. Ohm is the man invented Ohm's law, but apparently Dr. Thiele defined another measurement in terms of Ohms, because that is the easiest way to express it.
John you're trying too hard again to side with anyone that irritates certain of us (you know who they are). 😉
Instead of having Albert Neville Thiele ignoring Georg Simon Ohm, why is there not a clear reference to his work on the subject ?
Thiele, A. Neville (1975). "Load Stabilising Networks for Audio Amplifiers," Proceedings of the Institute of Radio and Electronics Engineers, 36(9), pp. 297–300. Reprinted Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 1976, 24(1), pp. 20–23.
EEs with access to the Journal might give us a description of Dr. Thiele’s technical propositions.
George
Thiele, A. Neville (1975). "Load Stabilising Networks for Audio Amplifiers," Proceedings of the Institute of Radio and Electronics Engineers, 36(9), pp. 297–300. Reprinted Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, 1976, 24(1), pp. 20–23.
EEs with access to the Journal might give us a description of Dr. Thiele’s technical propositions.
George
Agreed. I keep writing responses than eraseing them right after I think " why bother ". I would love to see Thiele's reaction to these exchanges.
You're still novel, Jn.
I don't think having a fast settling cable is a trivial thing. But for the speaker itself? I'd like to simply hear it, more than talk about endlessly. Then I'd know if all this hub-bub is worth the time everyone is putting in.
Yes. And Feynman's. If you read his cargo cult lecture: Everything he complained
about is concentrated here to the highest degree possible, coconut headphones included.
JC and his posse have long left the level of being funny. They have reached a state
where it is outright offensive.
It is insulting to insist against > 12 year olds that Santa is alive and kicking.
Given human ITD capability in the 2-5 uSec range (frequency dependent), if a cable settling is frequency dependent and spans say 5 to 20 uSec, the possibility cannot be discounted glibly. I may not be able to discern at that level, but I don't care at this point. I point it out w/r to Joe's stuff as a bone to toss his way..
For me, the hub-bub of cable settling time on my speakers is not worth my putting effort into worrying about. I have other priorities.
Ground loops on the other hand, I am nefarious about, ground loop hum and noise bugs the living daylights outta me..no stone unturned..
jn
This thread is unique on the forum, I'm sure everyone knows what I mean, and it includes his name, so frankly, what do you expect? 😉
Hi everybody! Thought it might be useful to lighten the conversation a bit. I really don't know if Joe is promoting something useful or not, but I think he has the right to express his opinion without being criticized by others. Dr. Thiele is a known in audio speaker design circles, and JN's attitude even about his existence, without even Googling his name, is an insult to Joe and everyone else. Let's keep it professional, when it comes to criticism. For example, I am not a liar, in fact I would never knowingly lie on this thread. What would be the point? JN calls me one, on a regular basis. Why? Like the president, he finds that dismissing people who do not agree with him, and calling them liars, works for his argument. But his accusations have no foundation, it is just a way of trying to win an argument that has been done for centuries. Of course, attacking someones character and education is another way. You know, it gets old, after awhile.
Cargo cult science is often to find in pseudo-objectionistic groups that believe to know the "TRUTH" .
Btw, i don´t know what Feynmans stance on it was, but i still believe discussions would/could be much more productive if the posters were less interested in ridiculing other members.
Btw, i don´t know what Feynmans stance on it was, but i still believe discussions would/could be much more productive if the posters were less interested in ridiculing other members.
Yeah, see my post above.
What you stated contradicts one end to other by longing the right to express for one but not the other. If Joe has such right (which he does), then so do others (to express their criticism).
Wait, so you want the criticism to come through as long as it is professional?
In the light of lightening the conversation a bit, "It's not a lie... if you believe it." (George Costanza, Seinfeld Show).
Loudspeaker cable settling time, wonder why I have never noticed the problem? Crosstalk, EMI pickup, power loss, even frequency tilt. Wonder what I haven't been checking? Maybe my cables are not long enough as to where it would matter?
I don't think this is a "right" in any form of media: spoken, written, video, you name it, except perhaps for the NK supreme leader and the Pope.
Frequency tilt? That's new to me. Is this something about using a leveler to set up the cables?
I have one. Maybe I ...
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