You ever find that properly reflected sound can actually help for a ‘live’ feel to music?
Havent really thought about that. I use a pair of KEF LS50's for classical and acoustic with a sub bass for a bit of reinforcement below 80 Hz and I use B&W 703's for pop/rock stuff. On big band I sometimes listen with the KEF's and sometimes with the B&W's.
The KEF's are definitely more accurate and especially the top end but the B&W's tend to be the more lively speaker - and they are quite a bit more efficient than the KEF's.
Post your Solid State pics here.
The KEF's are definitely more accurate and especially the top end but the B&W's tend to be the more lively speaker - and they are quite a bit more efficient than the KEF's.
Post your Solid State pics here.
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Bansai, looks like you get some free amphitheater effects off the short wall/angled ceiling, So reflections do kindly play into it.
Matt excuse my confusion......you mean finding a accurate recording in the first place ‘doesn’t exist’ ?
Matt excuse my confusion......you mean finding a accurate recording in the first place ‘doesn’t exist’ ?
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No, badly phrased probably. I mean all we have is the recording, that's our origin, we don't know how close it is to the original sound, if there was one, we can hope.
Ahhhh.... you ought to try getting into live recording, it’s rather fun and cost for decent gear has dropped immensely since I bought my last stuff in 2000 or so(digital technology has caught up)
I'll bet it's fun, played around a little bit years ago, and I mean played 😉 I wouldn't be able to stand the levels these days 🙁
From a physical point of view, a truly accurate recording must be able to capture the original soundfield and a truly accurate reproduction must then be able to recreate the original soundfield at another point in space and time.
Obviously we can't do that up to now; as said before, binaural recordings (if taken to the max done with in ear microphones while attending the original event and reproduced with in ears) are probably the best approximation at the moment.
Everything else is based on the ability of our brain to manufacture something that is convincing.
Obviously we can't do that up to now; as said before, binaural recordings (if taken to the max done with in ear microphones while attending the original event and reproduced with in ears) are probably the best approximation at the moment.
Everything else is based on the ability of our brain to manufacture something that is convincing.
Jakob, It might be closer than you think; some modern recordings are really blowing my mind and dsp on playback fills in the gaps.....I think soon they will be encoding dsp in production to be decoded in playback then custom fit to your room in a Dirac like process. Think about the possibilities with that!
Edit.....throw in holographic video display and your there!
Edit.....throw in holographic video display and your there!
That all sounds like something Siegfried might have said 😉
Speaking of fantastic recordings, listening to my newly arrived Sidney Bechet properbox 😀
Speaking of fantastic recordings, listening to my newly arrived Sidney Bechet properbox 😀
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I was asking myself, reading Bonsai, if there were not a confusion between reverberation and reflexions. I (not alone ;-) find anechoic chambers awful to listen to music.
I dislike my KEF LS50 Wireless for their lack of "body". Not accurate at all to my ears, specially on snare and kick drums, and this is the base of everything.
I like the quality of their treeble (sharp, separated and dynamic), it is a pity it is not part of the whole landscape (too muddy and confused). So I feel they sound "hifi" and not natural.
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The wireess ones are all 'DSP'd' up. I prefer non-active speakers.
I really like mine and find they are very weighty and have a full, natural sound.
And, the imaging is seriously good - the speakers disappear and the front to back layering is superb.
Ditch the wireless ones and go for the straight version - about 800 Euros I think.
Recording your own live sounds is also a good way to judge your gear... You were there and so you know what it should sound like. Not unlike the process I described for in-home audio eval for accuracy.
Its what is behind my process, i did my own recording ... Revox 30 ips half track set up for using Ampex 456 Grand Master tape. Condenser mics... best sound I ever heard played right off your master tape. I would put it thru an inverse RIAA filter and run it thru the phono stage to listen for its' sonic accuracy. But need to be near-field or the room will distort the sound from what it was at the recording site.
recording in the same space/room as the playback makes it easier to know... dont have to try and remember the sound when recorded. Can do A - B comparisons in near real time.
Just get a great Omni... measurement mic of high quality. Record close to mic... not on top of it, just close... a few inches. No room pick-up. Your ears will do the rest.
THx-RNMarsh
Its what is behind my process, i did my own recording ... Revox 30 ips half track set up for using Ampex 456 Grand Master tape. Condenser mics... best sound I ever heard played right off your master tape. I would put it thru an inverse RIAA filter and run it thru the phono stage to listen for its' sonic accuracy. But need to be near-field or the room will distort the sound from what it was at the recording site.
recording in the same space/room as the playback makes it easier to know... dont have to try and remember the sound when recorded. Can do A - B comparisons in near real time.
Just get a great Omni... measurement mic of high quality. Record close to mic... not on top of it, just close... a few inches. No room pick-up. Your ears will do the rest.
THx-RNMarsh
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I dream that, in the future, we could have access to the original multitrack recordings (with the mixing automation).
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My big system is time aligned.
The kef DSP version is using a delay to time align the two drivers. The difference with/out is day and night. Without, I loose all the attacks I like.
Cyanide or strychnine ?
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