Any description how it works (HF filtering)? Maybe HF filter would be much cheaper and much more effective?
Ah, so that is how it works!Bonsai said:
Given the size of Planck's constant that means an incredibly tiny improvement.Markw4 said:
If you think about the alleged filtering action added to a potential divider consisting of a piece of wire+Bybee feeding a typical audio equipment impedance (say 10k-100k?) then it should not take you long to work out that any filtering (even if real) is so hopelessly small that only people with real Golden Ears will hear it and even then only when they know the device is present.Jakob2 said:
A good deal of misinformation is being put up here about Jack Bybee, his devices and me.
Let's correct this: First, Scott must be referring to an experimental Bybee device (never on the market) that I heard (with and without) at Bybee's house some years ago. I do have a set of these devices myself, but I have never put them in my system. They do NOT filter rumble. More like low frequency noise from the record. Jack just told me that they were too expensive ( the primary parts) to make into something salable. You see, Jack does NOT make the active devices, himself. He buys them from a confidential source, and until recently always has.
The 'goop' impregnated foil that Scott took apart is completely separate, and apparently Jack sources the active substance and then finds ways of applying it to things, a bit like Dan appears to do. I have seen the raw materials, they are like a dark sand or something. This works on an an entirely different principle than his original devices.
The original Bybee devices are supposed to be a 1/f noise sort of filter, by changing the state of some electrons that are prone to make 1/f noise, apparently.
The newer devices tend to change the air by resonating with one of its major components, making the air 'different'. Works for me in both my digital and even my new power amplifier, and how!
The hi fi show was pretty sad, and I left after a few hours. Found a number of audio friends there, however. It was worth that.
Let's correct this: First, Scott must be referring to an experimental Bybee device (never on the market) that I heard (with and without) at Bybee's house some years ago. I do have a set of these devices myself, but I have never put them in my system. They do NOT filter rumble. More like low frequency noise from the record. Jack just told me that they were too expensive ( the primary parts) to make into something salable. You see, Jack does NOT make the active devices, himself. He buys them from a confidential source, and until recently always has.
The 'goop' impregnated foil that Scott took apart is completely separate, and apparently Jack sources the active substance and then finds ways of applying it to things, a bit like Dan appears to do. I have seen the raw materials, they are like a dark sand or something. This works on an an entirely different principle than his original devices.
The original Bybee devices are supposed to be a 1/f noise sort of filter, by changing the state of some electrons that are prone to make 1/f noise, apparently.
The newer devices tend to change the air by resonating with one of its major components, making the air 'different'. Works for me in both my digital and even my new power amplifier, and how!
The hi fi show was pretty sad, and I left after a few hours. Found a number of audio friends there, however. It was worth that.
Both complete nonsense, pretty sad indeed. There is nothing more here than Geoff Kait's teleportation tweek where you pay him to play noise at your system over the phone. I'll do that at 1/2 price, and I have better noise.
Many years ago, Jack tried Geoff Kait's 'disk' and could not find anything to make it work with his system. I, too, am more suspect of Geoff Kait than I was originally. I never could be sure of him. We used to talk by phone, years ago, but not in recent years. I am also suspicious of his telephone tweak, I prefer to keep an open mind about things that I have never tried.
It equates more to the blessing of the fleet than a ‘tweak’
Maybe it’s hypnotism? You will hear better dynamics, you will hear better dynamics ‘snap’
Huh
Maybe it’s hypnotism? You will hear better dynamics, you will hear better dynamics ‘snap’
Huh
We can all be fooled. I was probably 'fooled' when I first tried Geoff Kaits Chip (disc), many years ago. But a false positive sometimes is better than all the false negatives that you guys insist on.
Bonsai, if you wrote that thing about Jack Bybee, then you are a liar.
Bonsai, if you wrote that thing about Jack Bybee, then you are a liar.
I did. Perhaps you can help me out with the difference between rumble and low frequency noise from the record? 😕
Rumble is a repetitive series of tones from the motor drive of the TT. 1/F noise on record surfaces is something else altogether and has no specific frequency. You know, like random noise.
Remember Scott, Bybeelonium only attenuates noise. The signal is ignored.
Details on how this works in practice cannot be divulged at this time.
Details on how this works in practice cannot be divulged at this time.
Some low level information seems to be lost too, sometimes, but not as much as the noise appears reduced. That is why I don't use them in series with my QUALITY audio inputs, only Comcast TV.
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