John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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And why do the electronic companies insist on showing distortion ratings at 10% distortion for there monolithic amplifier chips? Who wants to look at that when you are designing a real amplifier circuit? They make is a pain to find the 1% ratings many times, seems rather silly if you aren't advertising to some dumb a*s consumer looking to make their car license plate rattle.
Ford determined some time ago that 10% symmetrical clipping distortion was about the threshold for most automotive audio to have people complaining, and it made the bass a lot louder. Since a lot of the chip amps were made for car audio the manufacturers adopted the 10% spec.

Harman automotive amps had limiters, and it was sometimes tricky to make them have 10% distortion in limiting, particularly when the supply voltage was changing.

Some of the Japanese chipmakers went further and gave a number for a square wave output!

What I am not historically informed on is where the "PMPO" ratings came from. One used to see these silly powered speakers with preposterous power ratings. They were powered from teeny wall warts. Now the low duty cycle of real audio does help you a lot here, but there are limits.

Now most products that I work on or with use 1% onset-of-clipping as the criterion for power ratings. Sometimes less than that.
 
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Jacco,
I don't often convert from English liquid measure to metric units, we do have just about everything I can think of marked in both units though. When I am working in distances I just have to remember 25.4:1 when going back and forth between inches and mm, not to difficult really once you get used to it. I have to do it all the time so it is second nature at this point. When I'm driving my car it always goes much faster in kilometers per hour! I still have to look at a cheat sheet for GD&T dimensioning but I'll get it down.

quick crib for mph/kph conversion is the fibonnacci series, 20mph=30kph, 30mph=50kph, 50mph=80kph etc, good up to licence threatening speeds.
 
RNM,
Not sure where I was making a comment that you are referring to? See you correction, wasn't me.

Wrinkle,
I didn't think it was an exactly 1.5:1 ratio of kilometers to miles. I think that is close but off enough to get you a ticket. I looked it is 1.6:1, still something I could calculate in my head.
 
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It seems to be about 90% connectors it is the rest where it gets interesting.

It turns out that heat can affect connections. The process of unsoldering a wire from a connector and turning it around without removing the connectors, as I think you said was something you tried, could perhaps change connector behavior just from the heat cycling of soldering. Maybe something to rule out?
 
RNM,
Not sure where I was making a comment that you are referring to? See you correction, wasn't me.

Wrinkle,
I didn't think it was an exactly 1.5:1 ratio of kilometers to miles. I think that is close but off enough to get you a ticket. I looked it is 1.6:1, still something I could calculate in my head.
1.609344, given the 25.4mm/inch ratio (which I believe is exact).
 
RNM,
Not sure where I was making a comment that you are referring to? See you correction, wasn't me.

Wrinkle,
I didn't think it was an exactly 1.5:1 ratio of kilometers to miles. I think that is close but off enough to get you a ticket. I looked it is 1.6:1, still something I could calculate in my head.
The ratio changes with each pair of numbers in the sequence, 50mph 80 kph is 1.6, whilst the true ratio is nearer 1.63, and 50:30 is 1.66666, again close enough to keep you out of trouble
 
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