Okay, just recently on this very thread there was some investigation into amplifier and speaker interface issues. an abundance of resonance related issues was brought forward, indeed this interface seen so problematic that some even suggest a total shift of paradigm from voltage to current drive. Now these issues are all (most of all) relate to a coil in a magnetic field and driver in a box dynamic behavior, just maybe some of those issues could be minimized by the revers process taking place in a moving coil cartridge, sort of like correcting a dynamic twist in one direction with the opposite dynamic twist preceding it. I find those blind for this broader view of a system and system behavior very limited in any kind of abstract thinking and also limited to isolate and optimize elements out of context. I rest my case and will not comment on it any more.
Predistortion and feedforward techniques are well known. Adding random uncontrollable distortion to correct other distortion is however not one of those techniques unless you need comfort noise.
You haven't presented a case yet just some vagueness about a coil for the source is better matched with a coil for the output... but no substance as to why this must be and to be honest tainted towards LPs being the best....
No cigar.
I believe my missis has the offending Abba CD in her collection......
An there is will stay😀
Though I am tempted its just what do I say if anyone catches me listening to it...
An there is will stay😀
Though I am tempted its just what do I say if anyone catches me listening to it...
Isn't that related to 'sympathetic magic' as a solution for problems? You have a pain in your right foot - heal it by hitting your left foot with a hammer.MiiB said:
When comparing CD and vinyl it very important to use decent equipment. Not extremely expensive but well constructed. Vinyl reproduced on turntable with felt mat always sounds thick, forward and imprecise. Put the same record on acrylic platter and sound is sharper, more focused etc. Some compare LP and Cd using the cheapest DD turntables and entry level MM cartidges. It is unfair comparison.
I have recently reads that modern CD-s are mastered as loud as possible with zero dynamic range! What sources use owners of high end CD players and DAC-s? A dozen of audiophile mastered CD-s? Or SACD only?
I have recently reads that modern CD-s are mastered as loud as possible with zero dynamic range! What sources use owners of high end CD players and DAC-s? A dozen of audiophile mastered CD-s? Or SACD only?
General issue with modern pop music. Medium is irrelevant. Those of us whose musical tastes run in a different direction have less of an issue with it (not zero, but less).
Not modern pop. 😀 The CD I'm playing right now sounds great, really nice dynamic range and a natural sound. It is NOT Katy Perry.
I used to try different mats but always went back to cork.
It's a bit like groundhog day on a spinning platter here, same arguments with a slightly different take going round and round, but always arriving back where we started.
It's personal taste IMO, some like a bit of harmonics to replace what they perceive as missing warmth from their low distortion amplification and clean sounding modern speakers.
Cue the guy with the Linn LP12 (JC?) not the most accurate of turntables, in fact it gets slated on a lot of UK forums, but it can be very pleasing to listen to. It can also be brought up to date with some expense but some people prefer it in original form.
This is about the acceptable distortion of vinyl vs the clinical sound of digital.
It's a bit like groundhog day on a spinning platter here, same arguments with a slightly different take going round and round, but always arriving back where we started.
It's personal taste IMO, some like a bit of harmonics to replace what they perceive as missing warmth from their low distortion amplification and clean sounding modern speakers.
Cue the guy with the Linn LP12 (JC?) not the most accurate of turntables, in fact it gets slated on a lot of UK forums, but it can be very pleasing to listen to. It can also be brought up to date with some expense but some people prefer it in original form.
This is about the acceptable distortion of vinyl vs the clinical sound of digital.
The last really decent turntable i heard was a michell orbe se, the guy that owned it was so proud of it, the most accurate turntable he had ever owned.
It made his better lp's sound almost like digital done well....
I'm with mr Marsh on this one, trial and error got me here.
It made his better lp's sound almost like digital done well....
I'm with mr Marsh on this one, trial and error got me here.
So, J.C. will stay, stuck at a moment of his life, like an old actor for the character earning him his Oscar, with the head full of audiophile ghosts (I.C. are evil, digital is bad, silver forever etc...).
But i have two questions for you, John.
- Does this have any meaning, to spend his life drawing Steam locomotives ?
- Why the hell don't you 'voice' your system for digital ?
But i have two questions for you, John.
- Does this have any meaning, to spend his life drawing Steam locomotives ?
- Why the hell don't you 'voice' your system for digital ?
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Please get real, digital is nothing but bandwith limited analog. We talk subjective differences between VFA and CFA and how one plays music and the other don't. Now digital is of a sudden perfect, and yet the hobby is shrinking. Never ever in time has so many people listened to two channel music (telephones an headsets) and yet the recruitment into HiFi is close to non existing, surely that's because we're perfect and make perfect products. What if a speaker don't need perfect signals..??? What if the distortion and Un-linearity of cartridges simply is a better key to the decoding. How can you dismiss that possibility... Where is the Recherch mindset in that. Stuck and narrow minded... Why on earth should curl design steam engines when his specialty is low noise analog. Create something spectacular of your own, then you can start down talking others.
Christophe, I am very unpleasantly surprised by you message above. I expected more from a man whose entire culture cherishes bon ton. It's way out to ask anybody why his views are as they are, and remember, the same could be always asked of you. What does it matter?
John has his veiws, you have yours, I have mine. What should we do, blame everyone who feels differently? Question their motives and general education levels? Or should we first give them a fair trial, and then guillotine them?
And if the above is applicable to John, the part about steam locomotives would translate to what, wooden clubs for those who feel 5W of tube power is all you need?
Not fair, not nice, Christophe. And yes, silver forever. Until you give me something better.
John has his veiws, you have yours, I have mine. What should we do, blame everyone who feels differently? Question their motives and general education levels? Or should we first give them a fair trial, and then guillotine them?
And if the above is applicable to John, the part about steam locomotives would translate to what, wooden clubs for those who feel 5W of tube power is all you need?
Not fair, not nice, Christophe. And yes, silver forever. Until you give me something better.
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Perhaps for you, and I agree SOME copper wires are almost as good as some good silver, but overll, for me, nothing beats pure silver wiring using Neotech wires. The again, perhaps my system has a better resolution than yours, so I can tell the difference, who knows?
Fascinating non sequitur.
The hobby (by with I mean designing and building audio equipment for fun) is indeed shrinking, the audience for high quality audio is graying, no doubt about it. The growth in audio is elsewhere- music production, for example. Home recording is booming.
I notice the same thing in music- the audiences for live unamplified music are smaller and grayer than they used to be. OTOH, there's better distribution and lower barriers to entry for new artists, so despite my curmudgeonly observation, there's more diversity than ever, more availability of interesting and creative art. Going digital has absolutely enabled that.
That is so rude and a common thing thrown at people.... Maybe it has maybe it hasn't... Maybe your hearing is better maybe it isn't...
PROVIDE some proof instead of hearsay, never had any yet that silver is better for signal integrity than copper, and of course other areas of sensitive analogue don't subscribe to this fallacy.
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