Richard:
Have you listened to the Benchmark AHB2?
What did you think of it, relative to what you're looking for in amps?
No secret agenda, just curious ....
mlloyd1
Have you listened to the Benchmark AHB2?
What did you think of it, relative to what you're looking for in amps?
No secret agenda, just curious ....
mlloyd1
Richard:
Have you listened to the Benchmark AHB2?
What did you think of it, relative to what you're looking for in amps?
No secret agenda, just curious ....
mlloyd1
They're fairly good. I think they're probably the smartest home theater choice. But do they sound like a CFA amp or a VFA treated very well? No, not quite.
Why Home Theater? Well, they're not harsh on the ears, sound fairly powerful, and they're tiny so you can place them anywhere, right at the speakers if you so wish, or even in a wall. And I think they out pace most classD options by a good margin.
I just got back from The Office and tested a sample CFA originated by Damir.
JC.... yes, I think it is more than SR but aligned with the fact that the distortion doesn't rise within audio BW as most typical of high gnfb VFA will do. Talking power amps here. The constant distortion with freq and power and load is very impressive to measure, let alone hear. No dynamic changes. Rock solid and pin-point imaging.
Here are a few of many tests done today to illustrate the small variances --- 2, 4 and 8 Ohms.
2 and 4 Ohms
2 Ohms ! >600W
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8 Ohms
same with freq... very low and little change.
The above is in all cases 2H only. 3H is <-110dB
THx-RNMarsh
JC.... yes, I think it is more than SR but aligned with the fact that the distortion doesn't rise within audio BW as most typical of high gnfb VFA will do. Talking power amps here. The constant distortion with freq and power and load is very impressive to measure, let alone hear. No dynamic changes. Rock solid and pin-point imaging.
Here are a few of many tests done today to illustrate the small variances --- 2, 4 and 8 Ohms.



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same with freq... very low and little change.
The above is in all cases 2H only. 3H is <-110dB
THx-RNMarsh
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[-B = CFA's minus input Buffered]
Not a CFA, something about what is right and what is wrong. Audio PA's are designed to operate at a very narrow range of closed loop gains and are set up that way. The buffered CFA at 20dB more closed loop gain would have 20dB less BW (VFA).
Nope... not here any way. Using current mode operation only then will add -B, later.
-RNM
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Nope... not here any way. Using current mode operation only then add -B.
-RNM
I guess EE's are wasting their time with audio. Just about any input topology outputs a current, if that makes it current mode OK by me.
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I am referring to Current-Mode circuit operation with buffer added to - input port. But the tests shown here are NOT with the -B input port added on... later for that mod.
THx-RNMarsh
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I guess EE's are wasting their time with audio.
Guess so. If you want to see it that way.
-RNM
Richard:
Have you listened to the Benchmark AHB2?
What did you think of it, relative to what you're looking for in amps?
No secret agenda, just curious ....
mlloyd1
No I haven't. For myself, the power is too low and I would have to buy two and bridge them. Way too expensive. But certainly would like to hear it on my system.
THx-RNMarsh
RE: Richards new amp
Very nice!
😎
More internal photos, please.
I'd really like to see/hear about the construction details that help get those impressive measurements.
🙂
mlloyd1
Very nice!
😎
More internal photos, please.
I'd really like to see/hear about the construction details that help get those impressive measurements.
🙂
mlloyd1
😎🙂
My new amp
THx-RNMarsh
That's fantastic Richard - built like the proverbial out house - that's going to be around for many years!
🙂
🙂
Its great fun for me to torture some here. Like Waly the terrorist. 🙂 {I love you Waly]
I think we all by now know something about CFA and VFA. but there seems to be some problem with my preference for CFA and maybe CFA-B topology. Maybe it is similar to JC's preference for the topology he has worked out and continues to use.
As often happens, I ask for what is possible to do but far above what might be minimally required. I asked for highest SR, lowest distortion, high power (=/>200W/8), symmetrical topology, etc. Nothing about high/low fb. For myself, the CFA was easily able to meet all to a very very high level of performance. So does it Sound any better than run-of-the -mill VFA designs? I think so. Enough to put my money where my mouth is. Several people over here in DIYAudio-land have met the challenge with great success.
Now I havent said such performance cannot be done with VFA and maybe they would also sound superior with similar specs? Bonsai and OS has done comparisons this way to learn about any perceived differences. Bonsai has described the CFA quit accurately on his web site.
THx-RNMarsh
I think you've nailed the whole design preference thing. You find a topology you like and feel comfortable with (and you of course like the sound as well) and then you keep working with it and refining it. JC likes complementary input folded cascade designs, DS likes blameless, I am happy with symmetrical CFA and so it goes.
I think Waly is into RF amps. But he hasn't quite worked out that they aren't really suitable for audio. You know, the stuff between 20 Hz and 20kHz.
😀
(I've calmed down now Scott 😉 )
Richard...???
John
This is signal ground. Strange, why is going around output wires??
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That was my question.This is signal ground. Strange, why is going around output wires??
Damir
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