Is the strobe's pulsewidth on the order of a few hundred nanoseconds? Otherwise, that looks very highpassed - wouldn't something more rectangular be expected (like you'd get with an optocoupler?). What makes the trace so impulsive?
It is 2 uS per division. I suspect the strobe power supply rings a bit and the alligator clip leads certainly do at those frequencies. Then there are also reflections of the bench and misc. stuff on it.
(I read it as 500 nS of light.)
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Looks like edge coupling . . .
Trigger is on the rising edge. High pass at 20 Hz. ish single pole.
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5mA via a CCS (bipolar cascode) into a Radio Shack red LED. Radio Shack strobe about 6 inches away running at 60 Hz. Scope set to 1mV/div.
My strobe is dumping a 100 uF/350 volt capacitor into the new flash tube. So I probably have at least 10 times the light you used. My LED was a red diffused type but had to be pointed at the tube to get maximum output. Range about 4".
Now my scope has really nice triggering and capture algorithms. So I can look at a single burst.
So now the issue is how does this vary among LEDs?
Also what is the frequency response of your sound system? I'll grant you can hear hum at normal levels.
Ah, that kind of strobe! I was thinking something more mundane like shutter type.
Had one lying around waiting to be turned in a shop telephone ring indicator and then this popped up. So under 5 minutes on my bench to check things out. Just had to see when it was so easy to do.
Ah, that kind of strobe! I was thinking something more mundane like shutter type.
Mine is a disco-type.
Also what is the frequency response of your sound system?
I use a clock radio. Scott always complains bitterly when I make him listen to it.
Mine is a disco-type.
I use a clock radio. Scott always complains bitterly when I make him listen to it.
Well a radio shack disco strobe at 60 bpm would probably be at least 100 times less output per flash than my setup. Even if they used one of the disco standard 110 Watt Second tubes.
As to the clock radio. I believe you. After all real objective testing would measure the entire system before you even start.
In other news, the silence of the ignorant detractors is downright deafening.
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But SY is still arguing. HE IS WRONG. Everyone else sees a small level of sensitivity even in forward biased diodes. I also got a peak at a 1N4148 that showed a bit of sensitivity. So Gerhard has a good idea, a bit of black paint is a good safeguard.
Depending on app/use.... increased leakage current could result.
THx-RNMarsh
-106dB at 20kHz.
This isn't a correct usage of "dB". No comment on actual importance of the effect, which will surely only matter in specific context.
Much thanks, as always,
Chris
Depending on app/use.... increased leakage current could result.
THx-RNMarsh
I thought ppl actually used heatshrink tubing rather than paint because it's not as messy. (Guess, if necessary, it could be the adhesive type to pinch the top closed.)
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Did-you mean conductive painting ?Depending on app/use.... increased leakage current could result.
Yes, those glows are reassuring.I will continue to use LEDs and not even paint them. They make nice indicators when bringing up power for the first time.
Well a radio shack disco strobe at 60 bpm would probably be at least 100 times less output per flash than my setup.
And about 3 or 4 orders of magnitude greater than even a worst-case real world application.
in wide spread use by the aliens
Maybe a case of best not to use a VW LED.
As it happens, I know a few lollipop doctors*.
For some reason, their cars have the exact same exhaust pipes as yours, Mr Colburn.
I've yet to find corroboration for a connection in weekly MIB bulletins.
* one travels by train on days-off, carrying a suitcase with a distinct silicone fragrance.
Harmless, his first name is Randy, but identified as an auto-prober (and lollipopper)
He does have a tendency to forget the suitcase when leaving the carriage.
General warning to the public : do not attempt to open suitcases, left on trains, the contents may be 100 percent extraterrestrial.
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Who has any light brighter than a 100 watt incandescent in a normal room? Unless you are in a disco, do they still have those, with a strobe light, where did that come into the discussion of the susceptibility of an led to be a photo detector in an active forward bias circuit? Let's say you had two or more leds inside of an enclosure why wouldn't you just use a narrow angle dispersion led and have them pointed away from each other, the amount of scattered light would be very low, are we not making something out of another of those audiophile myths here?
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