That all has Nothing to do with court room proceedings and lawyer strategies on a mostly non-technical jury who is more impressed with patents than you are.
Which is why patents are so often used for marketing purposes.
But it would be quite trivial for any defense attorney to disabuse even the most non-technical juror of the notion that patents are of any meaningful utility when it comes to proving whether or not something is complete BS.
se
Luckily, people like N. Copernicus consider the data relevant.The data is not really relevant when one can conceive of a logical, rational chain of cause and effect.
Luckily, people like N. Copernicus consider the data relevant.
Yes. Because it seemed quite logical and rational to many that the earth orbited the sun.
se
But it would be quite trivial for any defense attorney to disabuse even the most non-technical juror of the notion that patents are of any meaningful utility when it comes to proving whether or not something is complete BS.
se
easier said than done. And a lot cheaper.
I understand that Bybee did a test with results that JC put up. There needs to be a second party to do the same tests to verify the test. What instrument (specs needed) and function was being used to make the tests? How were the tests made?
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Or rather the Sun (and moon and stars) orbited Earth.Yes. Because it seemed quite logical and rational to many that the earth orbited the sun.
se
"We trust our eyes. We've no need for measurements."😉
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"We trust our measurements. We've no need for ears." 🙂"We trust our eyes. We've no need for measurements."😉
Dedicated to JC and keeping an open mind -- The 131st AES Convention, Oct 21, 2011. Richard C. Heyser Memorial lecture.
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easier said than done. And a lot cheaper.
Fact remains, a patent doesn't mean squat when it comes to whether or not the thing works and this would be easily demonstrated to even the most non-technical jury should it ever come to that.
And let's not forget that a lawsuit opens the plaintiff up this little thing called "discovery."
se
"We trust our measurements. We've no need for ears." 🙂
The problem is that people like you keep focusing on ears and neglecting the fact that they're plugged into an embarrassingly unreliable human brain.
You would continuously argue that square A is of a darker shade of gray than square B because well... just LOOK AT IT! It's blatantly obvious!
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Dedicated to JC and keeping an open mind -- The 131st AES Convention, Oct 21, 2011. Richard C. Heyser Memorial lecture.
There's keeping an open mind, and then there's letting your brains slosh out onto the floor. Not one and the same. And sadly, John is of the latter.
se
I do have a big problem, though ... I listen to live music and it has a certain quality about it that I like -- and then I listen to most hifi systems and they have a quality about them I don't like. So it's a dilemma: either I accept the "proof" that "experts" have created audio systems as good as the 'real thing', or, I believe my ears ... maybe I should chuck a coin, perhaps ... 🙂The problem is that people like you keep focusing on ears and neglecting the fact that they're plugged into an embarrassingly unreliable human brain.
I do have a big problem, though ... I listen to live music and it has a certain quality about it that I like -- and then I listen to most hifi systems and they have a quality about them I don't like. So it's a dilemma: either I accept the "proof" that "experts" have created audio systems as good as the 'real thing', or, I believe my ears ... maybe I should chuck a coin, perhaps ... 🙂
It's perfectly fine to "trust your ears" when it comes to your subjective experience. That's the only thing that counts at the end of the day. Just don't try and pass off your subjective experience as anything more than that (i.e. by making objective claims) unless you're prepared to substantiate those claims with something more than your subjective experience.
se
Phew, I wondered whether he'd pick that I implied Americans don't sleep ... that was a lucky break ...
The data is not really relevant when one can conceive of a logical, rational chain of cause and effect.
Nonsense. Youy just described the modus operandus for a fraud.
'For every problem, there is an easy to understand, straightforward, wrong answer'
jan
either I accept the "proof" that "experts" have created audio systems as good as the 'real thing',
Frank, 'we' never said that. It's the marketeers and scam men that say they've done that.
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