thank you!
here is the link to the schematic
JFET_Hiraga.png - Google Drive
sorry, how to place a picture??? --the direct http link below works
JFET_Hiraga.png - Google Drive
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here is the link to the schematic
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
JFET_Hiraga.png - Google Drive
sorry, how to place a picture??? --the direct http link below works
JFET_Hiraga.png - Google Drive
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increasing source resistor will decrease gain , though - be moderate with that (100R max or JFet will be current starved)
decreasing drain resistor will decrease gain , again be moderate with that , THD is going up say 330R as lowest
decreasing drain resistor will decrease gain , again be moderate with that , THD is going up say 330R as lowest
that worked!
i ended up with 68 Ohm for source and 1k for drain on Hiraga le Monstre, without subjective loss of sond quality
Will use this for Pass F5 and Hiraga 30W too
thank you, Zen Mod !!
i ended up with 68 Ohm for source and 1k for drain on Hiraga le Monstre, without subjective loss of sond quality
Will use this for Pass F5 and Hiraga 30W too
thank you, Zen Mod !!
one question:
whats the reason for for the value of 10uf capacitor in JFT BOZ
what happens if i use lower or higher values?
thanks
whats the reason for for the value of 10uf capacitor in JFT BOZ
what happens if i use lower or higher values?
thanks
Blocks DC and determines cut off frequency of the bass when combined with the power amplifier input impedance.
General rule is 100K input = 1uf.
10k = 10uf
etc.
General rule is 100K input = 1uf.
10k = 10uf
etc.
hmmm dont understand completely:
i thought, when using smaller caps, i have less bass response
what if i use 1uF - what limitations do i have?
i thought, when using smaller caps, i have less bass response
what if i use 1uF - what limitations do i have?
What is the input impedance of the next stage (per amplifier)?
And yes, smaller caps will have less bass response but it depends on the input impedance of the next stage....the cap creates a filter when combined with the power amp input impedance.
Le Monster has 47K input. Pass F5 has 100K input.
This might help you:
Coupling Capacitor Calculator by V-Cap
And yes, smaller caps will have less bass response but it depends on the input impedance of the next stage....the cap creates a filter when combined with the power amp input impedance.
Le Monster has 47K input. Pass F5 has 100K input.
This might help you:
Coupling Capacitor Calculator by V-Cap
thanks,
when i calculate on the suggested site, 1uF should be enough.
Why suggests Pass 10uf on the output?
when i calculate on the suggested site, 1uF should be enough.
Why suggests Pass 10uf on the output?
For one, it's a very common value cap.
Also, you want to make a versatile preamp with good bandwidth into demanding loads. Generally, you'll want to put your -3dB frequency two octaves below the lowest frequency you want to have unaffected by the highpass formed by the coupling cap and the input impedance of the following stage. f=1/(2*pi*R*C) for 10uF and 10k gives f=1.6Hz for -3dB. Two octaves above is like 6Hz, which is reasonably far away from 20Hz. A 5k input impedance gives f_-3dB=3.2Hz. Two octaves above that is almost 13Hz, so the performance at 20Hz is theoretically still unaffected by the output cap. 10uF is thus a reasonable choice for an output coupling cap for a wide range of input impedances.
So, in short, 10uF is a common value and pretty much guarantees that the output coupling cap does not harm performance.
Also, you want to make a versatile preamp with good bandwidth into demanding loads. Generally, you'll want to put your -3dB frequency two octaves below the lowest frequency you want to have unaffected by the highpass formed by the coupling cap and the input impedance of the following stage. f=1/(2*pi*R*C) for 10uF and 10k gives f=1.6Hz for -3dB. Two octaves above is like 6Hz, which is reasonably far away from 20Hz. A 5k input impedance gives f_-3dB=3.2Hz. Two octaves above that is almost 13Hz, so the performance at 20Hz is theoretically still unaffected by the output cap. 10uF is thus a reasonable choice for an output coupling cap for a wide range of input impedances.
So, in short, 10uF is a common value and pretty much guarantees that the output coupling cap does not harm performance.
Fellas, I’ve read the thread completely from page 1 and now I want to make one.
My JFET is matched 5.87mA Idss. I am planning to use 18V battery power supply. This will drive a class D amplifier with 20k Zin and 20dB voltage gain.
Since I don’t have oscilloscope nor the knowledge to simulate the circuit, please be so kind so share:
- What value for Rdrain? I understand this needs to bias half the voltage at the Drain.
- What value for Rsource? I understand this is the local feedback and sets the gain? I don’t need too much gain, let’s say 1.5-2.5x amplification is okay, anything between a buffer and a standard preamp would suffice.
I want the lowest possible distortion while maintaining the character and the simplicity of the circuit. It has been described as lively-sounding which really piqued my interest. I’m not set on the power voltage, but pretty much stuck with the JFET.
Any suggestion will be much appreciated.
My JFET is matched 5.87mA Idss. I am planning to use 18V battery power supply. This will drive a class D amplifier with 20k Zin and 20dB voltage gain.
Since I don’t have oscilloscope nor the knowledge to simulate the circuit, please be so kind so share:
- What value for Rdrain? I understand this needs to bias half the voltage at the Drain.
- What value for Rsource? I understand this is the local feedback and sets the gain? I don’t need too much gain, let’s say 1.5-2.5x amplification is okay, anything between a buffer and a standard preamp would suffice.
I want the lowest possible distortion while maintaining the character and the simplicity of the circuit. It has been described as lively-sounding which really piqued my interest. I’m not set on the power voltage, but pretty much stuck with the JFET.
Any suggestion will be much appreciated.
if i use standard JFET BOZ, to connect to one of my class D amps (TPA3116), which has lots of gain, the overall gain is too much and you can hear hissing noise with high sensitive speakers.
in my case i need small additional gain with hiraga monster in active speakers to match with the other amps and speakers.
I used 18Volt batteries to fire it.
in my case i need small additional gain with hiraga monster in active speakers to match with the other amps and speakers.
I used 18Volt batteries to fire it.
For one, it's a very common value cap.
Also, you want to make a versatile preamp with good bandwidth into demanding loads. Generally, you'll want to put your -3dB frequency two octaves below the lowest frequency you want to have unaffected by the highpass formed by the coupling cap and the input impedance of the following stage. f=1/(2*pi*R*C) for 10uF and 10k gives f=1.6Hz for -3dB. Two octaves above is like 6Hz, which is reasonably far away from 20Hz. A 5k input impedance gives f_-3dB=3.2Hz. Two octaves above that is almost 13Hz, so the performance at 20Hz is theoretically still unaffected by the output cap. 10uF is thus a reasonable choice for an output coupling cap for a wide range of input impedances.
So, in short, 10uF is a common value and pretty much guarantees that the output coupling cap does not harm performance.
Thanks, that was the answer i wished to hear 🙂
Now i can use my pio 1uF caps and do not need to buy bigger ones.
If forgot to say, that i use them above 200hz for mid/high range amp, so 1uF should be more than enough.
Fellas, I’ve read the thread completely from page 1 and now I want to make one.
My JFET is matched 5.87mA Idss. I am planning to use 18V battery power supply. This will drive a class D amplifier with 20k Zin and 20dB voltage gain.
what jfet is it? (2sk170gr?).......
do you have a dmultimeter?
what jfet is it? (2sk170gr?).......
do you have a dmultimeter?
Hi, it’s 2SK117. Yes I do have a multimeter.
Thank you.
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I loaded the data into excel and set it to a 3rd order polynomial for a good estimator. I also made another graph that is fairly easy to read.
You can also punch the equation into a wolframalpha and get an estimate for your specific idss.
y = 0.0152x3 - 0.4738x2 + 6.1317x - 10.22
Below is my estimate for idss = 9.3 (just replace the "9.3" with your idss)
y = 0.0152(9.3)^3 - 0.4738(9.3)^2 + 6.1317(9.3) - 10.22 - Wolfram|Alpha
Idssvsvoltage.jpg - Google Drive
Thanks to all for the data and hope this helps another DIY'er! and as always critique welcome!
With this formula, Idss of 5.88 shows power supply voltage = 12.5V 😀
Does that sound about right? 😀
JFET BOZ gain inceaseable too?
Hi,
am i right, that i can increase gain with using lower values for source and higher values for drain
say 5 Ohm for source and 2k7 for drain
Resaon is, that with F5 overall gain is litte too small, in comparison to Hiraga amps
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you'll find your sweet spot 🙂
Hi,
am i right, that i can increase gain with using lower values for source and higher values for drain
say 5 Ohm for source and 2k7 for drain
Resaon is, that with F5 overall gain is litte too small, in comparison to Hiraga amps
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