It's not a product name...it's just the title of the thread. The title is mean to bring people in. You can feed the boards i2s, clocks, DSD. You might be able to send other signals and I will confirm that for you. You will definitely not be able to send network traffic or USB traffic via the link.The "i2s" board obviously has an i2s input and a i2s output or you would not call it "i2s" I suppose. So I ask about the external interfaces, are they i2s aware in the sense that if you try to feed the board something else it will not pass it to the other side? If not it is a generic pulse-train conveyor with for separate lines on which you could send an i2s interface on.
But instead, say that you would like to send a a 10base-t signal over on of the lines - would that work?
If it would, I think you might want to reconsider the name of the board as it could do much more than i2s.
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Sonore Lumiere SeriesOkey 🙂
So what will you call it?
And what will the interface accept?
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It's a series of products...there will be product pages for that.Why not a name that indicates it's function?
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Looking at the current catalogue, you seem to have painted yourself into a corner namewise :-D
Why so secretive? This should be a functional product with no special snake sauce - right?
Make it work and work good, earn some fair money on each produced unit and be glad over that. Be transparent and you will have more satisfied, returning customers!?
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Why so secretive? This should be a functional product with no special snake sauce - right?
Make it work and work good, earn some fair money on each produced unit and be glad over that. Be transparent and you will have more satisfied, returning customers!?
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Again, it would be of interest know how the 30fs jitter number was measured. Doesn't mean much without knowing more. Please see page 4, figs. 6, 7 and related text in the following: https://www.crystek.com/documents/appnotes/ImpactUltralow.pdf for what would interest us for audio use.
For example, for a clock repeater device: https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NB3L553-D.PDF Jitter is specified as "RMS Phase Jitter (12 kHz – 20 MHz): 29 fs" (Typical)
For example, for a clock repeater device: https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NB3L553-D.PDF Jitter is specified as "RMS Phase Jitter (12 kHz – 20 MHz): 29 fs" (Typical)
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It's something I've been looking for so i'd be very interested if the price is right. Unlike others I really don't care what it's called as long as it works 🙂
Well, I think that was brought up in the sense of *what* it works for 🙂
But maybe you are not so interested in that as long as it "works" 😉
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But maybe you are not so interested in that as long as it "works" 😉
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I suspect the family of boards will start with i2s (a specific protocol) and go on to include SPDIF etc (another specific protocol) and end up fleshing out to be a complete endpoint (SFP-port fiber to i2s without the need of a ‘send’ board at source end).
I understand you are initially selling a transceiver and cable but is this in an open-cage SFP port? i.e, pluggable, so I could use my own transceivers and cable? One use case here would be moving the boards from one location to another. Another would be reconfiguring an existing SFP-based installation.
Finally, any idea (won’t hold you to it 🙂 ) of ballpark timeline? Specifically for i2s availability and the endpoint availability?
I imagine there would be a bigger market for the endpoint solution - or do you see it differently?
I understand you are initially selling a transceiver and cable but is this in an open-cage SFP port? i.e, pluggable, so I could use my own transceivers and cable? One use case here would be moving the boards from one location to another. Another would be reconfiguring an existing SFP-based installation.
Finally, any idea (won’t hold you to it 🙂 ) of ballpark timeline? Specifically for i2s availability and the endpoint availability?
I imagine there would be a bigger market for the endpoint solution - or do you see it differently?
Naa. It seems pretty functional to me...but I can include some snake sauce if you like. Are you applying for a CEO position...if so you are hired🙂 Customers are usually very satisfied and returning. Our regular customers are not DIYers per say though.Looking at the current catalogue, you seem to have painted yourself into a corner namewise :-D
Why so secretive? This should be a functional product with no special snake sauce - right?
Make it work and work good, earn some fair money on each produced unit and be glad over that. Be transparent and you will have more satisfied, returning customers!?
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I want to be sure we are on the same page. If you want a buffer or low noise XO you need to include then in your circuits because the send/receiver board does not have any. The jitter spec on the first post is just an additive jitter number and or a part spec as discussed...I would not get hung up on this.Again, it would be of interest know how the 30fs jitter number was measured. Doesn't mean much without knowing more. Please see page 4, figs. 6, 7 and related text in the following: https://www.crystek.com/documents/appnotes/ImpactUltralow.pdf for what would interest us for audio use.
For example, for a clock repeater device: https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NB3L553-D.PDF Jitter is specified as "RMS Phase Jitter (12 kHz – 20 MHz): 29 fs" (Typical)
LOLIt's something I've been looking for so i'd be very interested if the price is right. Unlike others I really don't care what it's called as long as it works 🙂
I'll confirm this for you...I want I2s transmission. Thread title says it all.
That is the plan more or less. I don't want to provide to much support so I prefer to send you kits that will work and that means we are gong to include the parts and hope you can wire the signals. You can forget about your existing SFP installations because they will not be compatible. This is a specific, point to point transmission scheme and you need matching send and receive boards. The timeline is in the air because of all the backlog from COVID 19 reported from supplies. All I can say is that it's in progress...I suspect the family of boards will start with i2s (a specific protocol) and go on to include SPDIF etc (another specific protocol) and end up fleshing out to be a complete endpoint (SFP-port fiber to i2s without the need of a ‘send’ board at source end).
I understand you are initially selling a transceiver and cable but is this in an open-cage SFP port? i.e, pluggable, so I could use my own transceivers and cable? One use case here would be moving the boards from one location to another. Another would be reconfiguring an existing SFP-based installation.
Finally, any idea (won’t hold you to it 🙂 ) of ballpark timeline? Specifically for i2s availability and the endpoint availability?
I imagine there would be a bigger market for the endpoint solution - or do you see it differently?
Clear on the need for a send and a receive board for the i2s, SPDIF etc variants but, if you produce an endpoint/renderer, then surely you don’t need a send board with that?
Understand re the timeline. Thanks.
Understand re the timeline. Thanks.
If we produced an endpoint/renderer we can fully integrate the send board or just have it as an add on.Clear on the need for a send and a receive board for the i2s, SPDIF etc variants but, if you produce an endpoint/renderer, then surely you don’t need a send board with that?
Understand re the timeline. Thanks.
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I want to be sure we are on the same page. If you want a buffer or low noise XO you need to include then in your circuits because the send/receiver board does not have any. The jitter spec on the first post is just an additive jitter number and or a part spec as discussed...I would not get hung up on this.
If you want to pass i2s you would like the added phase noise to be low. The hardest part is the close-in pn.
PN is the property of a clock.
"The jitter spec on the first post is just an additive jitter number and or a part spec as discussed...I would not get hung up on this.")
This statement does not make me feel confident in this product. Maybe it's an CTO you need? ;-D
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I'm aware of all that. I explained what the number means and since it's just a part spec I would not dwell on it. I'm not going to argue your presumption about the product based on the spec I have provided thus far. No...I offered you the CEO position because the CTO position is clearly already taken😉If you want to pass i2s you would like the added phase noise to be low. The hardest part is the close-in pn.
PN is the property of a clock.
"The jitter spec on the first post is just an additive jitter number and or a part spec as discussed...I would not get hung up on this.")
This statement does not make me feel confident in this product. Maybe it's an CTO you need? ;-D
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