This is an interesting observation. Why would that be? I'm pretty sure that a mass production manufacturer could 'prove' that their amp sounds better than a 10x more expensive amp. But they don't. Why?
jd
Did Mr.van den Hul tell you that his carbon cables are a waste of money or something similar?I bet not.He considers his carbon cables great sounding as you can read in his website.Have you ever listened to one?If yes,did you hear any difference compared to other interconnects?
I'll specifically make a "similar" claim - my Pioneer receiver sounds as good as (not "better", I don't know that) any "reputable" Hi-end amp - say Audio Research. Both are inaudible (well I am assuming the Audio Research is, if its not then its broken.)
I don't know and haven't heard what Earl is using in his demo's.I used to do the same "trick" of using a cheap ampand still do when I want to help someone to concentrate on say a cartridge🙂But I can if I'm asked to use another amp to achieve a better sound.I have also never heard any manufacturer(low or high-end)to try and promote their amplifiers because they measure well.In fact,even the low-end manufacturers say their amplifiers sound good and ask potential buyers to judge them for that,not measurements.
Just received my new $0.79 interconnects. They sound so much more the same as the old Monster cable that was a leftover from "darker" times 🙂
I have never disagreed with any of the above,or that they are not the most important.
But you need non-"cheap" equipment and "good" wires to reproduce this "don't care if they are well recorded" music?
Fascinating🙂
Ok, so what does your room, speakers and recordings look like, given their importance for the music?
I do not own an audio research amp.My amp cost me $1350 and have chosen it for its contribution in my system,room and taste,after I have compared it to some more expensive and some less expensive amps.Sorry I have not listen to a Pioneer receiver.
But you have, just like Andre has "heard" Mogami cables, but was oblivious. Almost every time you listen to a recording.
Yet you can't hear them, can you (or maybe you will now that you've been told 😉)?
Strange eh? 🙂
I have commented on not hearing a Pioneer receiver.I prefer GOTHAM PRO cables if it is of any interest to you🙂
No need to repeat. We understood the first time, that you can't hear something that is inaudible. No one can.
Just like Andre couldn't "hear" the Mogami cables...any more than you or I could. 😉
cheers,
AJ
A recorded cd,lp etc....sound the way they do.This does not mean they wouldn't sound any different if any other cables were used during the recording etc.....
Do you think that if they did sound different then some measurement would also show the difference?
Yes, a defective cable could change the recording. But like with reproduction gear there are other things involved that have a MUCH bigger impact on the end result than cables (e.g. mikes and their positioning).
I've never spoken to a recording engineer that had an opinion about cable sound. They have strong opinions about hum, hiss, broken cables and bad soldering.
Then they have strong opinions about the money they get and the time they have for a recording job. Both is in very short supply. That's why I quit.
I'm not sure if you are asking me about measuring the music's difference.
What I know,is that my recordings sound more realistic when I use the cables I've mentioned before.I'm not selling them,they are not the most expensive we could afford.We have not measured any of the cable samples we were offered either.We could choose from known professional cable manufacturers,all respected by many professionals.
Unstated "blind" listening...
Maybe a replacement thread "I don't believe INET discussions about cables make a difference. Any Input??":D😀😉
If seeing is believing, I wonder how all the believers can hear a difference between components, what with all the unknown wiring, transistors, capacitors, cables, inductors, diodes, etc. "Blinded" by default every time one listens to equipment (unless of course they listen to their components "naked" so to speak...🙄😕😱
Is It Vishay, or is it NGK???😉
John L.
Maybe a replacement thread "I don't believe INET discussions about cables make a difference. Any Input??":D😀😉
If seeing is believing, I wonder how all the believers can hear a difference between components, what with all the unknown wiring, transistors, capacitors, cables, inductors, diodes, etc. "Blinded" by default every time one listens to equipment (unless of course they listen to their components "naked" so to speak...🙄😕😱
Is It Vishay, or is it NGK???😉
John L.
That's awesome!
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